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Old Fri Mar 26, 2010, 06:51pm
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Is that fair?

Is any portion of the batter's box in fair territory? Assuming so, if the batter stands with one foot in the fair portion of the box, and his batted ball hits this foot, what is the ruling?
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Old Fri Mar 26, 2010, 07:07pm
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Is any portion of the batter's box in fair territory?
Yes.

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Assuming so, if the batter stands with one foot in the fair portion of the box, and his batted ball hits this foot, what is the ruling?
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Old Fri Mar 26, 2010, 07:47pm
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Is any portion of the batter's box in fair territory? Assuming so, if the batter stands with one foot in the fair portion of the box, and his batted ball hits this foot, what is the ruling?
Just over 13% of the total size of the box.

Ditto to what JM said.
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Old Fri Mar 26, 2010, 08:08pm
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Unless the batter is Tiny Tim, some part of him is going to be in foul territory and that's all it takes to make a ball foul.
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Old Fri Mar 26, 2010, 08:37pm
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Unless the batter is Tiny Tim, some part of him is going to be in foul territory and that's all it takes to make a ball foul.
I don't follow.

By (a literal reading of the) rule, the batter would be out if he's hit by a fair ball in fair territory. It wouldn't matter that one foot (the foot not hit by the ball) was in foul territory.

By interp, it's foul if it hits the batter while the batter is still in the box. It's a common question for newer umpires.
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Old Sat Mar 27, 2010, 01:42am
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I don't follow.

By (a literal reading of the) rule, the batter would be out if he's hit by a fair ball in fair territory. It wouldn't matter that one foot (the foot not hit by the ball) was in foul territory.

By interp, it's foul if it hits the batter while the batter is still in the box. It's a common question for newer umpires.
In Fed, it is plainly written, though. OBR, there's nothing to defend the "in the box" rule.
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Old Sat Mar 27, 2010, 10:44am
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Unless the batter is Tiny Tim, some part of him is going to be in foul territory and that's all it takes to make a ball foul.
What? Whatever happened to "it's the location of the ball, not the player"?

As Bob said, it's by interpretation and tradition that we call a foul when a batter is hit while in the box, regardless of where in the box.
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Old Sat Mar 27, 2010, 11:28am
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What? Whatever happened to "it's the location of the ball, not the player"?

As Bob said, it's by interpretation and tradition that we call a foul when a batter is hit while in the box, regardless of where in the box.
Unless the batter is hit with his fair ball while he has one foot on the ground completely out of the batter's box. The new rules will reflect this currently enforced interpretation.
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Old Sat Mar 27, 2010, 11:56am
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Unless the batter is hit with his fair ball while he has one foot on the ground completely out of the batter's box. The new rules will reflect this currently enforced interpretation.
If he's hit with his foot completely out of the batter's box, he's not in the batter's box.
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