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yeah...I'm not saying they're never wrong because even they will admit that they're wrong sometimes...heck we're human. i wonder how they ruled this to put the B/R on 1B. must have something to do with ball 4 as stated in an above post.
an illegal pitch w/ runners on is an illegal pitch...but is there something in the interps about it being a 3-2 count and not giving the defense a chance to strike the batter out on a 3-2 count?
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Sometimes I wonder how 4 guys can get any of the rule interps wrong at that level...it may have something to do w/ Joyce's experience. Is he the crew chief? Maybe the other guys didn't step in since they weren't asked...
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Cousins was - he is in the video. The crew was Cousins, Joyce, Bill Miller, and AAA Fill In Adrian Johnson.
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Note that the comment specifically states that an illegal pitch with runners on is penalized as a balk.
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I know the rule...I guess I was playing along trying to figure out how they could've ruled the way that they did. Thanks for posting it though.
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Interesting point...the penalty for illegal pitch can be a balk...but you can't have both balk AND illegal pitch penalties on the same play?
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correct. we catch mlb umpires too often messing up rules... which is odd
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I found this balk penalty ruling the Baseball Almanac website:
PENALTY: The ball is dead, and each runner shall advance one base without liability to be put out, unless the batter reaches first on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batter, or otherwise, and all other runners advance at least one base, in which case the play proceeds without reference to the balk. It says the balk is ignored if the batter reaches on a base on balls. |
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Which didn't happen because the batter flied out to right. If he had taken the pitch and it was called ball four, the balk would've been ignored since the batter made it safely to first and the runner advanced one base.
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HOWEVER, if the runner was on second and the pitch was ball 4, it would have been a balk; count still full.
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I know that Johnson doesn't deserve to take the hit on this one, but he has got to be the worst call-up working.
From his floating strike zone to changing his call on Twins' Mauer getting hbp after Gardehire argued and WITHOUT talking to a single partner, AJ has shown that he is not ready for the big time. However, rumors persist that he is second or third in order to move up. |
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