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Originally Posted by UmpTTS43
an illegal pitch with runners on is a balk. R1 to 2nd, batter back up with a 3-2 count.
No options with a balk.
Sometimes you just have to say "WTF?"
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I agree. There are 2 things it could be: an illegal pitch (only with no runners on base) or a balk. An illegal pitch with runners on base is a balk, so there is nothing that allows you to credit a ball to the batter. The balk penalty is as I stated it above:
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Originally Posted by mrm21711
2) The crew did not correctly enforce the balk by awarding the batter a ball and and awarding him first base as a result. The balk penalty is the runners are awarded their advance base and the pitch does not count. Here they gave Votto 2B and Phillips 1B. Crew should have awarded Votto 2B and Phillips should have remained at bat with a 3-2 count.
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IMO the crew got this wrong. It HAS to be a balk and not an IP and the balk penalty never lets you award a ball to the batter.