Earrings and a ponytail.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think it is all about local standards or company standards in the first place. I tend to dress better than most people in professional settings because I feel I already have people trying to judge me anyway. The last thing I want someone to try to infer is that I am not professional or that I am not qualified based on how I look. That is my standard and how I approach these issues. I would never get a tattoo or have my hair in a way that is not considered professional by the most professional expectations.

I am sure CA might have D1 umpires that look different than across many parts of the country. But I would like to look like someone that could easily fit in anywhere in the country and sometimes is overly dressed in this capacity.

Peace

I agree with all of this. I'm in a position where I dress above most in my office (due to who writes my paycheck as opposed to who writes the checks for the others in my office) most days.

Frankly, I can understand your approach professionally. Does this mean I show up to a basketball game in a tie? Not at all, because it's not expected in my region and would actually most likely be mocked unless I could claim to be an attorney or something. It does, however, mean I don't show up in jeans or sweats no matter what my partners are doing.

As a good friend of mine says, "Dress for the job you want, not the job you have."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I you were reading the exchange, I wasn't the one calling anyone names here, I was responding to someone characterizing me as a homosexual, and I take great offense to such personal attacks. Grunewar was agreeing with me that the offending party was way out of line.

You completely missed the point of my post. And there are bigger things to get upset by when it is not true.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You completely missed the point of my post. And there are bigger things to get upset by when it is not true.

Peace

Yeah, you're right...I don't understand your point at all. What exactly are you saying?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yeah, you're right...I don't understand your point at all. What exactly are you saying?

It doesn't matter.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It doesn't matter.

Peace

It matters to me. Are you saying I have no right to take umbrage to disparaging remarks concerning my personal life? That I should allow those remarks to stand without any recourse?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

It matters to me. Are you saying I have no right to take umbrage to disparaging remarks concerning my personal life? That I should allow those remarks to stand without any recourse?

No, he was just saying that in his opinion, the comments were so juvenile they really didn't need a response. YMMV, of course.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No, he was just saying that in his opinion, the comments were so juvenile they really didn't need a response. YMMV, of course.

They were indeed juvenile, and coming from a 50 year-old man sounded more like an attack on me, not to mention I find that kind of talk to be disgusting and perverted.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

They were indeed juvenile, and coming from a 50 year-old man sounded more like an attack on me, not to mention I find that kind of talk to be disgusting and perverted.

I took it that he was trying to be funny by calling you some sort of jock sniffer, but took it to a special kind of disgusting. In my opinion, it speaks more clearly of his level of emotional and mental development than anything else.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I took it that he was trying to be funny by calling you some sort of jock sniffer, but took it to a special kind of disgusting. In my opinion, it speaks more clearly of his level of emotional and mental development than anything else.

Jock sniffer is a long way from where he went.

His comments were a disgrace, and indicative of profound cowardice and sickness. Absolutely shameful. People like that Mazza shouldn't be allowed around young people.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Jock sniffer is a long way from where he went.

His comments were a disgrace, and indicative of profound cowardice and sickness. Absolutely shameful. People like that Mazza shouldn't be allowed around young people.

I agree completely.

[SethPDX]

Well, this thread was pretty darn good for a while. It touched on some sensitive topics and the discussions got quite spirited. For the most part, though, I thought the participants remained civil to each other.

Yeah, that was fun while it lasted.

[johnnyg08]

Steve, you might not enjoy all of my posts, just like I don't enjoy all of your's. However, this thread has run it's course. I don't enjoy reading sexually explicit comments even if they're not your quotes. I read this forum to learn about how to be a better umpire. This thead is not teaching me any more about how I can improve. I think this could be settled via PM's or email if you choose to figure it out via the internet. Not on the semi-public forum where umpires share ideas and thoughts regarding baseball. This was a good thread, but it's run it's course. Lock it up. Feel free to have them lock the thread on me as well, if you feel that I'm hijacking a thread to settle personal attacks. I won't be offended.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Steve, you might not enjoy all of my posts, just like I don't enjoy all of your's. However, this thread has run it's course. I don't enjoy reading sexually explicit comments even if they're not your quotes. I read this forum to learn about how to be a better umpire. This thead is not teaching me any more about how I can improve. I think this could be settled via PM's or email if you choose to figure it out via the internet. Not on the semi-public forum where umpires share ideas and thoughts regarding baseball. This was a good thread, but it's run it's course. Lock it up. Feel free to have them lock the thread on me as well, if you feel that I'm hijacking a thread to settle personal attacks. I won't be offended.

Pretty easy to say since it wasn't you being referred to in that way. What would you think if he said something like that to you? I can't imagine you would just let it stand or let it slide.

If he sincerely is apologetic, then I accept the apology. I just needed to remind him of exactly what he said, because he seemed to have forgotten.