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Bob & Rich,
I've heard of the PU taking the 2nd play in the infield with an R1 or R1 & R3 - and a few of the partners I've worked with who have been around awhile like to do it that way - but I've never heard it suggested with an R2 only, like in jicecone's sitch. But, as Bob says, I haven't been doing this very long. JM
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As already been implied here. This is like putting 3 Baptist in a room to discuss the interpretation of a single bible verse.
You are sure to get 8 opinions. When this game took place I had 4 years experience and this forum didn't exist. Mechanics were something you may or may not of heard about at your local association meeting and this was for HS ball only. Summer ball was based more on your availabilty, then your ability. Probably why both the worlds greatest ump and myself were on the game to begin with. The fact that you knew what the internet was, let alone how to use it was an exception , rather than the norm. And as evidence here, 30 years later, what the mechanic really is, is ..............................? So please stop. The point was the difficulty of a "crew reaching a call" when the personialities are not condusive to achieving the correct expected outcome. And we wonder why some of these threads become 7 pages long. |
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Umpire mechanics have been developed over decades by professionals that are well trained and take into consideration all type of issues when developing umpire processes. Even the NFHS with their outdated mechanics had a basic philosophy (hard to change) of why they had their specific system of umpiring. In a conversation with Evans he basically wanted to know WHY umpires working games played by non-professional players INSIST on changing systems (processes) to suit themselves. People that developed the systems know that umpire crews of 2 and 3 umpires are based on compromise. In this instance Evans would tell you the PU should stay home and allow the BU to handle the simplicity of a maximum of two base runners whereas the PU can stay home and not be compromised by an errant throw at third and be in race-to-the-plate with the advancing runner. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. And I will post about anything that I select to be involved in . . . if you don't like it don't read the thread. |
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R2, grounder to the left side, R2 holds until F6 throws to first, then runs. Play at first, second play back at third. This is the pretty standard "depends on where you are and who you're working with" that determines whether the BU bounces back to third or the PU is up there to make the second call. |
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Smitty will make both calls on the run and miss one and be horribly out of position on the other. I'd rather let Smitty stay with the call at first and be waiting in the cutout for the play at third. I don't have the 2-man (red book) handy, but I believe the PU taking this second play *is* the advanced mechanic (or the standard mechanic) depending on the year. |
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I think Evans says that the BU takes both ends of this play. That being said, pregame about how you're going to cover the play...IMO if the play is covered, then that's your mechanic on the play. If you can agree on how to cover the play, then default to the mechanic that's trained by the professionals who do the two man system.
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Tim should be able to address you with knowledge of just who you are. Taking several shots like that with code name anonymity is sheer cowardice. Agree or disagree with the man (which I often have), but don't be such a coward. |
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Fair's fair. Tim's totally out front with who and where he is. This guy wants to pop off with his cheap shots, he can come out with who he is, or he can keep his cheap shots to himself.
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