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Old Fri Jul 10, 2009, 09:06pm
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You lose. 9.01(d).
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Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.
The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!

and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.

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Old Fri Jul 10, 2009, 09:12pm
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The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.
Then the players should do just that: play. Don't stand around taking as much time as you want.

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Old Fri Jul 10, 2009, 10:49pm
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No, it's still you.



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The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!
Anyone who thinks they can address the umpire, who is generally a grown man, who just happens to be the boss on the field, by yelling at them that they can do what they please after being legally ordered to comply is subject to getting run from the yard in a hurry. If you were an umpire, you would know that, then wouldn't you?

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and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.
Umpires don't eject players or coaches, players and coaches eject themselves by their actions. By rule, judgment calls cannot be objected to, so I don't know where you get 30 objections. I get my calls right, and very rarely do I have to eject someone. But you tell me what to do, you better get packing, because only one of us will be still in the game, and it won't be you.
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 06:14pm
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The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!

and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldn't be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.
Well, all I have to tell the likes of you is if you act like an a$$hole, you will loose your chance to play! What do you think, you can address an umpire like hs is a piece of $hit and get away with it? Not on your life, pantywaist. So if you have a problem with what we do, put on the gear and let's see how you are! Personally, I've been listening to want-to-be's like you who think they are friggen stars for 30 years. Guys like you are all the same. Blame the umpire when you act like a $hithead and get ejected. Go cry on someone else's shoulder, jerk!

Sympathy is a word located in the dictionary between the words $hit & syphilis!
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 06:37pm
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How many times have I told you not to pull any punches? C'mon Ozzy, tell him how you really feel!!!
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 07:02pm
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And as I said before, if it means losing your edge ...

Coaching is easier than umpiring. As far as the mental game is concerned, not the physical execution, but the thought involved in playing, it is also easier than umpiring.

Just as spectators--mostly female--proclaim that baseball is boring, players and coaches tend to proclaim that umpiring is easy. They each make such observations due to a dearth of knowledge of the subject.

Rules aren't made to be broken they're made to be read. If it's your job to follow them you should read them at least once; if it's your job to enforce them, you should read them many times. ... I was told that by a long-retired N.L. umpire from the 70s and 80s, and it's a compelling thought.

I am astonished at how few players and coaches read the rules even once.

And in any given baseball game, there are about 30 objections to decisions?? Really? Any given game?
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 07:18pm
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I tossed a guy today in 25-U Saturday wood bat. And I dedicated it to Ozzy.

I call a pitch a strike in the ninth inning and the catcher pops up and guns a runner at second. I announce the count, and the batter stops, turns and says, "That was a strike?! WHAT THE FU@K ELSE?"

I thought, what would Ozzy do? And I ran him. Feel better soon, Ozzy.
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 09:26pm
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I thought, what would Ozzy do?
All umpires should live by this creed.
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 09:59pm
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Old Sun Jul 12, 2009, 01:25am
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I tossed a guy today in 25-U Saturday wood bat. And I dedicated it to Ozzy.

I call a pitch a strike in the ninth inning and the catcher pops up and guns a runner at second. I announce the count, and the batter stops, turns and says, "That was a strike?! WHAT THE FU@K ELSE?"

I thought, what would Ozzy do? And I ran him. Feel better soon, Ozzy.
This reminds me. I was doing a college summer league game a couple of weeks ago. Most of the teams are made up of NAIA and D2 teams, but there is one that is older guys that are past college with a few recent high school grads. Well we usually don't hear a peep from the college kids.

The other team is a different story. I rang one guy up on a curve ball on the inside corner that was a strike. He doesn't really do anything. The next batter comes up and the pitcher throws the same pitch, which I call a strike as well. He turns and says "That was not a strike...and it wasn't on the last guy either". The thought of dumping him didn't really cross my mind until later, so I just told him to shut his mouth and get back in the box. He didn't say anything else.

Should I have ran him for that comment? During any high school game, spring or summer, I'm thinking I probably would have. I talked to some other guys and they suggested to look at my indicator and say "Actually, according to this it was a strike!".
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This reminds me. I was doing a college summer league game a couple of weeks ago. Most of the teams are made up of NAIA and D2 teams, but there is one that is older guys that are past college with a few recent high school grads. Well we usually don't hear a peep from the college kids.

The other team is a different story. I rang one guy up on a curve ball on the inside corner that was a strike. He doesn't really do anything. The next batter comes up and the pitcher throws the same pitch, which I call a strike as well. He turns and says "That was not a strike...and it wasn't on the last guy either". The thought of dumping him didn't really cross my mind until later, so I just told him to shut his mouth and get back in the box. He didn't say anything else.

Should I have ran him for that comment? During any high school game, spring or summer, I'm thinking I probably would have. I talked to some other guys and they suggested to look at my indicator and say "Actually, according to this it was a strike!".
Take your pick:

"I'll bet the scorebook has it as a strike."

"Take two more just like it and see what happens next."

"It's a strike all day, you two just can't hit it."

"Shut up and swing the bat."
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Old Sun Jul 12, 2009, 06:44am
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Should I have ran him for that comment? During any high school game, spring or summer, I'm thinking I probably would have. I talked to some other guys and they suggested to look at my indicator and say "Actually, according to this it was a strike!".
I would not have ejected him. His comment was not personal, profane, or prolonged. He wasn't really showing you up. And he's entitled to his opinion of the pitch.

I would also resist the urge to be a smartazz in this situation. Doing so would only escalate the situation to the point where you will have to eject someone.

I keep it simple and emphasize the fairness of the call: "All day, both ways. Let's go." Or something along those lines. Gives them nothing to say in response, unless they're going to argue about my consistency. THEN I'd tell them that's enough (I never use "shut up") and to play.
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Old Sat Jul 11, 2009, 09:23pm
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Coaching is easier than umpiring. As far as the mental game is concerned, not the physical execution, but the thought involved in playing, it is also easier than umpiring.
Very true words. I would add that umpiring the plate is twice as physically draining as playing catcher, as the catcher at least gets to sit on the bench and relax when not catching, batting, or running bases.

People crack me up who think umpiring is easy when they've never once done it! Those who have strapped on the gear know that it is far from it.
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