Ways for batter to get ejected......

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by kufan1975

I had a situation last night were the batter didnt like my strike call, was right over the plate, JUST below the knee.... hittable ball!!

He stepped out of the batter's box, started to say something under his breath. I told him lets go, then he proceeded to turn toward his dugout, practice his GOLF SWING. I again told him lets go.... he then proceeded to tell me "I CAN TAKE AS LONG AS I WANT"..... so I said give me a new batter, the batter is EJ!!!

What other situations have we all had were the batter can get a chance to listen to the game on the radio in his car?

Im not a baseball ump, but used to play, and I can strongly say I feel you were 100% out of line. So what if the batter wrongly thinks he can take as much time as he wants. Give he as must time as granted in the rule book, then assess the penalty as prescribed in the rule book. I dont know the rules but Im willing to bet a substantial amount of $$ that the penalty for voicing an opinion on a rule that is wrong is not an objectionable offense.

Obviously the guy thought your strike call was too generous, but so what, are you gonna toss every pitcher that doesnt get a borderline pitch and walks off the mound and mutters something (a la carlos zambrano)

[Matt]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

Im not a baseball ump,

No ****.

Originally Posted by steveshane67

but used to play,

Used to play, huh? I can't imagine why you're still not playing...

Originally Posted by steveshane67

and I can strongly say I feel you were 100% out of line. So what if the batter wrongly thinks he can take as much time as he wants. Give he as must time as granted in the rule book, then assess the penalty as prescribed in the rule book. I dont know the rules but Im willing to bet a substantial amount of $$ that the penalty for voicing an opinion on a rule that is wrong is not an objectionable offense.)

You lose. 9.01(d).

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by Matt

You lose. 9.01(d).

No, You Lose

Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.

The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!

and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.

Then the players should do just that: play. Don't stand around taking as much time as you want.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

No, You Lose

No, it's still you.

Originally Posted by steveshane67

The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!

Anyone who thinks they can address the umpire, who is generally a grown man, who just happens to be the boss on the field, by yelling at them that they can do what they please after being legally ordered to comply is subject to getting run from the yard in a hurry. If you were an umpire, you would know that, then wouldn't you?

Originally Posted by steveshane67

and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldnt be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.

Umpires don't eject players or coaches, players and coaches eject themselves by their actions. By rule, judgment calls cannot be objected to, so I don't know where you get 30 objections. I get my calls right, and very rarely do I have to eject someone. But you tell me what to do, you better get packing, because only one of us will be still in the game, and it won't be you.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

No, You Lose



The ump ejected the batter after he wrongly asserted that he has as much time as he wants. to my knowledge, it is not an ejectionable offense to misunderstand the rules, or else there be no one playing ball!!!

and besides, in any given baseball game there are about 30 objections to decisions, I think you need to reconsider the umps role in the game. The umps shouldn't be going out of their way to "take the bat out of the players hand", let the players play.

Well, all I have to tell the likes of you is if you act like an a$$hole, you will loose your chance to play! What do you think, you can address an umpire like hs is a piece of $hit and get away with it? Not on your life, pantywaist. So if you have a problem with what we do, put on the gear and let's see how you are! Personally, I've been listening to want-to-be's like you who think they are friggen stars for 30 years. Guys like you are all the same. Blame the umpire when you act like a $hithead and get ejected. Go cry on someone else's shoulder, jerk!

Sympathy is a word located in the dictionary between the words $hit & syphilis!

[SanDiegoSteve]

How many times have I told you not to pull any punches? C'mon Ozzy, tell him how you really feel!!!

[Kevin Finnerty]

And as I said before, if it means losing your edge ...

Coaching is easier than umpiring. As far as the mental game is concerned, not the physical execution, but the thought involved in playing, it is also easier than umpiring.

Just as spectators--mostly female--proclaim that baseball is boring, players and coaches tend to proclaim that umpiring is easy. They each make such observations due to a dearth of knowledge of the subject.

Rules aren't made to be broken they're made to be read. If it's your job to follow them you should read them at least once; if it's your job to enforce them, you should read them many times. ... I was told that by a long-retired N.L. umpire from the 70s and 80s, and it's a compelling thought.

I am astonished at how few players and coaches read the rules even once.

And in any given baseball game, there are about 30 objections to decisions?? Really? Any given game?

[Kevin Finnerty]

I tossed a guy today in 25-U Saturday wood bat. And I dedicated it to Ozzy.

I call a pitch a strike in the ninth inning and the catcher pops up and guns a runner at second. I announce the count, and the batter stops, turns and says, "That was a strike?! WHAT THE FU@K ELSE?"

I thought, what would Ozzy do? And I ran him. Feel better soon, Ozzy.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Coaching is easier than umpiring. As far as the mental game is concerned, not the physical execution, but the thought involved in playing, it is also easier than umpiring.

Very true words. I would add that umpiring the plate is twice as physically draining as playing catcher, as the catcher at least gets to sit on the bench and relax when not catching, batting, or running bases.

People crack me up who think umpiring is easy when they've never once done it! Those who have strapped on the gear know that it is far from it.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

Im not a baseball ump, but used to play, and I can strongly say I feel you were 100% out of line. So what if the batter wrongly thinks he can take as much time as he wants. Give he as must time as granted in the rule book, then assess the penalty as prescribed in the rule book. I dont know the rules but Im willing to bet a substantial amount of $$ that the penalty for voicing an opinion on a rule that is wrong is not an objectionable offense.

Obviously the guy thought your strike call was too generous, but so what, are you gonna toss every pitcher that doesnt get a borderline pitch and walks off the mound and mutters something (a la carlos zambrano)

As usual, it's not IF the rat objects, it's how he goes about it. Here, he chose...poorly. And you know very well muttering something is not what got him ejected.

I can strongly say I feel the umpire did just fine. But I've been umpiring longer than I ever played.

"Draw a line up there..." I'm still chuckling.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

As usual, it's not IF the rat objects, it's how he goes about it. Here, he chose...poorly. And you know very well muttering something is not what got him ejected.

I can strongly say I feel the umpire did just fine. But I've been umpiring longer than I ever played.

"Draw a line up there..." I'm still chuckling.

Whats the difference between a batter saying, again I think everyone here knows the batter was incorrect in his rule knowledge, "I have as much time as I want" and a player yelling for an infield fly call when there is 2 outs bc they dont know the rules?

Youre certainly not going to eject the player in the infield fly situation, so why eject the batter???? Either tell him to get in the box, or start assessing whatever penalty is prescribed in the rule book for the batter not taking his stance in a timely fashion. ZERO need to eject at this point in time. You'd have a better argument (albeit still unwarranted IMO) if you ejected when the batter did his "golf swing" warmup.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

Whats the difference between a batter saying, again I think everyone here knows the batter was incorrect in his rule knowledge, "I have as much time as I want" and a player yelling for an infield fly call when there is 2 outs bc they dont know the rules?

One player doesn't know the rule and is an ***. The other just doesn't know the rule.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

Im not a baseball ump, but used to play, and I can strongly say I feel you were 100% out of line. So what if the batter wrongly thinks he can take as much time as he wants. Give he as must time as granted in the rule book, then assess the penalty as prescribed in the rule book. I dont know the rules but Im willing to bet a substantial amount of $$ that the penalty for voicing an opinion on a rule that is wrong is not an objectionable offense.

Obviously the guy thought your strike call was too generous, but so what, are you gonna toss every pitcher that doesnt get a borderline pitch and walks off the mound and mutters something (a la carlos zambrano)

I was going to say something here, but I read Matt's post, which covered just about everything I was going to cover.