Marty Foster's call at 3rd base today

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Ump153

The whiny little sh!t was out.

Only because it was mis-called.

[njdevs00cup]

Honestly, as a Red Sox fan, I cannot say a bad word about Derek Jeter. He is a class act.

On a different note, maybe Gammons and Kruk should replay the collision catch in the Tigers/Royals game. Check out the second base umpire in a full sprint to get a good view of the catch. The fact that he was even in the picture shows great hustle. Of course later on in the highlight package Kruk replays and slow-mo's a missed call at second base and proceeds to pick the umpire apart.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Only because it was mis-called.

No, it was the right call.

[zm1283]

I call that the same way that it was called in that game today. I've always been told by veterans that if the ball beats the runner by that much, and the runner slides straight into the base, he's out. Like someone else said, if the throw is a little off-line and there's a swipe tag and the runner slides to the inside or outside of the base, it's different.

[Dave Reed]

Forget about Hirshbeck's assessment of Jeter. Read this quote:

"You have to make sure that you have a tag," Hirschbeck said. "It used to be if the ball beat you, you were out. It isn't that way anymore. It's not a reason to call someone out. You have to have a clean tag."

Times change, and the notion of the "expected call" has already passed its expiration date, at least at the higher levels.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Times change, and the notion of the "expected call" has already passed its expiration date, at least at the higher levels.

At least in the press.

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by Ump153

At least in the press.

You callin' the crew chief a liar?

Seriously, Hirschbeck didn't take the convenient way out. He didn't back his crew member. There's no way to pass that off as feeding the press a line that he didn't really mean.

[Ump153]

"Jeter admitted that the Yankees have benefited from similar calls in the past, but he said he had never actually heard an umpire admitting to ruling a player out because the ball beat him.

"It bothers you if it's you, but if it works in your favor, you don't really mind it that much," Jeter said. "It happens. I just have never been told that before. It wasn't an argument, it was just that I didn't understand it."

So he wants it both ways. Rat.

Jeter knows how it's called. He admitted it. But when Marty talked to him as a pro, Jeter decided to take it like a Rat. Marty's mistake was to assume that Jeter could handle the truth.

It'll be a cold day before Jeter gets that call on defense again from any umpire.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Only because it was mis-called.

Spoken like a true coach.

Originally Posted by Fan10

I wonder which assessment of Jeter's character is the more accurate.

Mine, of course. You take John Hirschbeck's appeasement of the press over an honest assessment? Even Hirschbeck admitted that "it used to be called that way." Well, I'm from that old school, and sorry if I don't call a runner who is out by 15 feet safe because a fielder didn't want to get his hand injured by a sliding runner.