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I think what Bob is saying is that if you feel a B/R need be awarded 2B on the play and R2 is there already, you can award him 3B to "open" up that base to award the B/R 2B.
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That's where I'm confused. How can I think an obstructed BR would have attained second base when a preceding unobstructed runner is camped out there?
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R1. Batter hits a "sure double." He doesn't see R1 returning to second in the belief that R2 missed the base. F3 obstructs BR as BR rounds first. Put BR on second and advance R1 to third. |
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Award is minimum of one base. Technically (maybe if the contact with F3 is really big and knocks the runner down to the point where it can't be ignored) you could force the runner from second to third in order to award the base to the B/R. I would be hesitant to do so but maybe in that situation I might.
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FED OBS, while similar to OBR Type B, has a one base award beyond what they've already achieved attached to it. Am I interpreting that correctly?
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R1. Batter hits a "sure double." He doesn't see R1 returning to second in the belief that R2 missed the base. B/R turns around to return to first and runs into F3 who was trailing B/R on a designed defensive play. The ball is thrown to F3 who tags out the fallen B/R. We have obstruction. Put B/R on second and advance R1 to third. Quote:
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Type B in OBR doesn't necessarily guarantee another base. That's the huge difference in FED...if you have OBS in FED, we have to use a bit more discretion in calling OBS because it's a mandatory award of another base even if the runner had no chance, desire to advance another base. Example R2 slightly rounds 2B and simply looks at F7 to see if he's got the ball. F6 impedes him...technically OBS...but is it right to give him 3B? I don't think so.
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FED obstruction is Type B in OBR. The difference in FED is that when you call obstruction in FED, you will award at least 1 base in the forward direction (the part I hate). Example: R1 dives back to 1st on a pickoff and is obstructed by F3. In FED, R1 must go to 2nd base - there is no choice or question (now you know why I said I hate this).
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