Ankiel injury - Catch/No-catch?

[Tim C]

After watching the replay twice this statement:

"There was NO voluntary release."

ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

[Forest Ump]

What a great call by the officiating team getting that right in real time. Easy to see in the replay.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

What a great call by the officiating team getting that right in real time. Easy to see in the replay.

If I was watching as an umpire, I don't think it would've been that tough. I would've been anticipating a crash and looking for the transfer. Watching as a fan, though, in real-time, all I saw was a horrendous crash.

[Cub42]

It was called correctly. Voluntary release. Here is something to think about. If that wasn't a 4 man crew, that would have been a very difficult play to call

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by Tim C

After watching the replay twice this statement:



ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

tim what did you expect he is from Texas....LOL

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

tim what did you expect he is from Texas....LOL

Says the guy in Mississippi.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Says the guy in Mississippi.

well Tx ump is his screen name and it says he is from Wheaton, TX.... I guess it could be close to MS..

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Tim C

After watching the replay twice this statement:



ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

Tim, that's got to be a pretty big list by now.

[bossman72]

Pardon me for being a bit ignorant here... but i'm not making the connection with the "on the transfer" analogy of calling this a catch.

The only time I see an "on the transfer" call is on the front end of the double play, or an outfielder is trying to throw out the runner after a caught fly ball.

In both scenarios, the fielder has complete control of his body and he bobbled the transfer because he was trying to throw someone out at another base.

In the video, the ball was transferred (hard to tell full speed) from his glove to hand, but what for? He wasn't trying to throw anybody out because he still hasn't stopped stumbling.

I'm a little confused because this looks like a no-catch to me...


PS- the video appears to show that they ruled it a no-catch. The beginning scoreboard at the top has nobody on and 1 out and when Ankiel is being carted off, there is R3 and still 1 out...

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by bossman72

In the video, the ball was transferred (hard to tell full speed) from his glove to hand, but what for? He wasn't trying to throw anybody out because he still hasn't stopped stumbling.

It doesn't matter what for. All that matters is that the transfer was a voluntary release from the glove.

Heck - on a third out the fielder often takes the ball from his glove (obviously for no reason as there's no play to be made) and tosses it into the stands. Would you think that wasn't a catch?

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by bossman72

PS- the video appears to show that they ruled it a no-catch. The beginning scoreboard at the top has nobody on and 1 out and when Ankiel is being carted off, there is R3 and still 1 out...

Gameday provides pitch by pitch and play be play histories of the games. It shows Feliz flied out to Ankiel for the second out of the inning, and then Ankiel is replaced by Rasmus.

Also, the box shows no error on Ankiel, and no hits for Feliz.

So.....it was ruled a catch.

[UmpTTS43]

Great call by the crew. I hope that I can make the correct call in that situation. Kudos to them.