Why we umpires love baseball coaches--Part I.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

MTD,

What did you do to the 3B coach/HC?

Did you consider putting him in the dugout, at least?

If you didn't, that's okay. But if the HC yelled so loud to get the BU's attention, then the HC needs some kind of correction here.

Not withstanding the negagive reaction to my partner ruling his runner out. I did not restrict him to the dugout because we DID call his runner out because he not my partner and I put his runner at risk. Everybody keeps forgeting that before my partner said a word to the runner, the runner stopped short of second base and started to return to first base when he heard his coach yell "foul ball". It is my humble opinion that the HC learned his lesson about keeping his mouth shut., and that the "foul tip" signal means just that and not foul ball.

MTD, Sr.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Not withstanding the negagive reaction to my partner ruling his runner out. I did not restrict him to the dugout because we DID call his runner out because he not my partner and I put his runner at risk. Everybody keeps forgeting that before my partner said a word to the runner, the runner stopped short of second base and started to return to first base when he heard his coach yell "foul ball". It is my humble opinion that the HC learned his lesson about keeping his mouth shut., and that the "foul tip" signal means just that and not foul ball.

MTD, Sr.

No one is forgetting. But, once your partner confirmed it to be a foul ball, he put the runner in jeopardy worse than the coach. The runner still had a chance to turn around. But, once the umpire says foul, what runner is going to question that?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

No one is forgetting. But, once your partner confirmed it to be a foul ball, he put the runner in jeopardy worse than the coach. The runner still had a chance to turn around. But, once the umpire says foul, what runner is going to question that?

My partner never said used the word "foul". The only person on the diamond that used the word "foul" was the HC.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I understand what NFHS rules really want, but even when I go to the Pearly Gates and I am told that I am not good enough to get in and I then am turned away from Hades because Lucifer doesn't want me because he knows I WILL take over, I believe the punishment for the HC's crime was the "right" one.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

...and that is why he pointed to First base and told R1 to return to first base....

MTD, Sr.

Here, your partner TOLD R1 to go back to 1B. That is the equivalent to saying "It is a foul ball. Go back to 1B." Your partner put the runner in jeopardy when he confirmed it was a foul ball.

You're going to war for the wrong reason. You should have told your partner to verify before acting. He screwed up and your trying to defend the screw up. Simply let it be that he screwed up and move on. This is not a battle which can be won because your partner put the runner in jeopardy.

What about parts II and III?

[mook11]

he then turned back to me at which point I called out in a voice loud enough for the infielders to hear: the ball is still live. This caused F4 to immediately tag R1 who was still walking back to first base, who was promptly called out by my partner.

I have a slight issue with this as well. By calling this out, I think you also put the runner in Jeopardy. If you hadn't said a word, the defense might not have made a play.