What would you call?

[GoodwillRef]

Why are baseball umpires so stubborn and unwilling to change a call when it is obvious the call or rule applied is wrong? In football and basketball we get together and exchange information and try to get the call right...but in baseball we would rather be wrong than get some help and have to swallow a big peice of humble pie.

[kylejt]

I've got no problem changing my calls. Let's just do it the correct way.

[PeteBooth]

You are missing the point

Yes baseball officials should get together however, do it the correct way.

To use a comparison.

Suppose a basketball official ruled a charge on the offensive player but you were 100% convinced is was a blocking foul on the part of the defense. Are you going to chime in unnanoucned and over-rule your partner?

In baseball you cannot have officials arbritrarily over-ruling one another or injecting themselves in a rule interp UNLESS asked. That's the way it is and should be.

Remember if the coach does not agree with a rule interp then protest. It's no BIG deal. Once the coach protests then we can assist by RULE.

If the coach does not know how to file a valid protest then shame on him.

Pete Booth

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

You are missing the point

Yes baseball officials should get together however, do it the correct way.

To use a comparison.

Suppose a basketball official ruled a charge on the offensive player but you were 100% convinced is was a blocking foul on the part of the defense. Are you going to chime in unnanoucned and over-rule your partner

In baseball you cannot have officials arbritrarily over-ruling one another or injecting themselves in a rule interp UNLESS asked. That's the way it is and should be.

Remember if the coach does not agree with a rule interp then protest. It's no BIG deal. Once the coach protests then we can assist by RULE.

If the coach does not know how to file a valid protest then shame on him.

Pete Booth

You've hit the nail on the head with ypur basketball comparison Pete. Well put.

[UmpTTS43]

jicecone and Pete,

I understand what you are saying, and agree when there are other extenuating (sic?) circumstances. I was refering to when there is an obvious rule misinterpretation. I was making a general statement overall and not taking into consideration the entirety of this thread discussion.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

jicecone and Pete,
I was refering to when there is an obvious rule misinterpretation.

You still need the manager to do his job. Is that too much to ask?