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Old Mon Mar 16, 2009, 09:41pm
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Missed Base Appeals

How did this thread turn into a poll? The umpires on this board would not waste their time discussing this mechanic unless they were absolutely sure about it. I believe these missed base mechanics are also stated in the BRD and J/R's 100 Knotty Problems.

Some important things to note about a missed base and its proper appeal.
1) One mechanic aplies to 1B.
2) A different mechanic exists for HP.
3) 2B or 3B situations must also be recognized (treated differently than 1B and HP).
4) Read MLB, J/R, and BRD caseplays for understanding of missed base mechanics.
5) Read older threads on this website for similar explanations taken directly from JEA.
Search revealed a) Mechanics At First Base, b) Mechanics Question
6) Venture into similar discusions on other umpire boards {eteamz, abua, nfhs and eumpire}.
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2009, 05:20am
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FED 8-3-8: "A runner acquires the right to the proper unoccupied base if he touches it before he is out."

I don't see anything about assuming he touched it if he passes over it.

FWIW, I've learned from here to call it like others have been taught, but I don't agree with it.
Don't agree? Well, if R1 misses 2B on a safe single and goes to 3B, and if the defense fails to appeal, what are you going to call? "He missed 2B, he's out!"

I don't think so. You don't "assume" he touched 2B, you treat him as if he did until his infraction is properly appealed. Doing so is the basis of every rule about missed-base appeals.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 11:04am
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Confused - Missed Plate Mechanic

Sorry - but i seemed to have gotten confused on the proper mechanics for a runner missing home plate.
1. Runner overruns plate with no play at the plate. (no signal)
2. Runner with a play at home slides past the plate (no touch) and no tag by catcher? Runner gets up and heads for dugout. (mechanics?) Thanks for input in advance.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 11:06am
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Sorry - but i seemed to have gotten confused on the proper mechanics for a runner missing home plate.
1. Runner overruns plate with no play at the plate. (no signal)
2. Runner with a play at home slides past the plate (no touch) and no tag by catcher? Runner gets up and heads for dugout. (mechanics?) Thanks for input in advance.
1) Since there's no play, there's no signal. This is whether the runner touches the plate or not.

2) No signal. Since the runner is heading for the dugout, the defense need only appeal the out.
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