out of baseline??

[archangel]

Originally Posted by bigredmachine

I was in the field, my plate ump simply told him he was trying to avoid collision. I gave the coach both scenarios, obstruction, and the fact that he was not out of baseline because he was avoiding a collision.thanks.

I'm a little confused. You said in the OP that you ruled the runner safe, then explained things to the coach. But you also say that you were in the field.
That wasnt your call, or place to explain things. You should've just said
" Coach, talk to my partner, it was his call".......

[bigredmachine]

Originally Posted by archangel

I'm a little confused. You said in the OP that you ruled the runner safe, then explained things to the coach. But you also say that you were in the field.
That wasnt your call, or place to explain things. You should've just said
" Coach, talk to my partner, it was his call".......

Well the coach finally made it to me after he had his say to my partner. It was a babe ruth fall ball game and normally the coaches don't know anything in this league anyway. I tried my best to explain any situation where a runner is not ruled out of baseline so he would be quiet and go to the dugout. He was eventually in the parking lot.

[JJ]

If you're in the field this is not a discussion you should be having with the coach. It was your partner's call, therefore his explanation. I'd reserve any discussion with HIM for after the game, and then you bet I'd be having that discussion (why did you call what you did, and how did you explain your call to that coach?).
As field umpire it's not your position to try to explain your partner's call or no call. I have no idea in some plays why my partner makes the call he does, and I'm surely not going to try to explain what I don't know for 100% certainty. What happens if you disagree with his call from your vantage point - are you still going to try to explain his call to a coach? That's waaay out of my league...

JJ

[bigredmachine]

I agree, but sometimes when you are calling games in a small town babe ruth league, where you have coaches and parents that don't know a whole lot about the game or umpiring, you have to go outside the box and away from normal umpiring techniques. If this had been a college game or even high school, we wouldn't be having this conversation. In this situation, the coach asked me about it, and told him what the rules were about baserunning. It started out as a normal conversation, but he preceded to take it too far. Appreciate the input.