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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 12:34am
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R3, R2, 2 outs.
Ground ball to F5, R3 and R2 are going on contact.
F5 gloves the ball, runs at and tags the hung out R2 for the 3RD out.
R3 touches HP prior to the "tag" of R2.

BR is 1/2 way to 1B "when the tag of R2 is made", BR kicks the dirt and heads towards his 3B dugout to fetch his glove and hat.

F5 seeing BR stop, now throws to F3.
F3 steps on 1B and appeals; "the BR did not advance and touch 1B".
The advantageous 4th out is: "recognized by the umpires, as the 3RD out, on the BR, before he reached 1B, wipe off the run.
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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 02:17am
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Can't appeal abandonment.
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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 06:27am
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Can't appeal abandonment.
BR cannot abandon his responsibility to run to 1st base. Abandonment is only for runners that are on base already.

The BR has been appealed, this is the 4th out - no run scores.
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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 07:08am
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Abandonment is only for runners that are on base already.
I don't think so. What about the batter heading for the dugout after a dropped 3rd strike?

It's still the advantageous 4th out. No run scores.

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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 08:23am
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I don't think so. What about the batter heading for the dugout after a dropped 3rd strike?
The rule specifically says something like, "A runner is out when .... after reaching first, he abandons his attempt to reach the next base"

Somebody (J/R?) calls the BR leaving the baseline "desertion."
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Old Thu Jul 31, 2008, 08:29am
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Yep, that's J/R applying the term "desertion" for the B/R.
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