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Wed Nov 02, 2005, 04:08pm
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0-0 at the end of regulation. Team A scores a field goal, then goes on defense. The offense has the ball and fumbles. The defense muffs the ball and it goes into the pylon.
I have A winning the game 3-2. Agree or disagree? 
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Wed Nov 02, 2005, 04:43pm
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Wed Nov 02, 2005, 06:12pm
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REPLY: Joe...I tend to agree with yankeesfan. In my opinion, unless there is a very compelling reason for ruling a new force by B, I would tend to rule that A's force put the ball into the endzone. After all, they put the ball on the ground. I'm giving B the benefit of the doubt on the force issue.
In NCAA, it's different and more clear cut because the ball needs to be at rest before you could rule a new impetus by B in this play. Isn't that correct Jason, Mike, Tom?
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Wed Nov 02, 2005, 08:35pm
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Right Bob.
I'd have a hard time putting two points on the board for this one. New impetus (NCAA speaking) can only be applied to a grounded ball at rest. I've rarely seen fumbles where the ball is just lying there.
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Wed Nov 02, 2005, 08:46pm
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I see your points, and well taken. I meant to imply B provided a new force with the muff. We would need to be very careful in applying this rule.
In other words if the fumble was bouncing away from the goal line, then I'm assuming we can say if B changed the direction we would rule safety. If B added to the same direction the bouncing ball was going (toward the goal line) then we would rule touchback. I have never had this happen (close though) but thought to put this out there.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005, 09:50am
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4-3-2 When the out-of-bounds spot is between the goal lines, the ball shall be put in play at the inbounds spot unless a forward pass is involved. If the out-of-bounds spot is behind a goal line, it is a safety, field goal or touchback. If the ball touches a pylon, it is out of bounds behind the goal line.
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