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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 05:58am
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1 out, R3. Improper batter hits a sac fly scoring R3. Defense properly appeals BOO. FED: the proper batter is out, superseding the out made by the improper batter, R3 returns. Are OBR & NCAA the same?

1 out, R1. Improper batter grounds to F4, who throws to F6 for the force on R1, but the throw back to 1st is late. Defense properly appeals BOO. Do you get 2 outs (R1 & the proper batter) in all codes? What if the DP was completed?

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1st sitch: Correct, same in NCAA & OBR.

2nd sitch: Under the FED BOO rule, upon proper appeal, the defense would get two outs - the R1 forced at 2B and the proper batter. Same result whether or not the defense completes the DP. Under NCAA & OBR, only the improper batter would be out.

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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 08:34am
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Thanks JM.

So the difference is, in FED any outs made on the play stand (except the improper batter), in NCAA & OBR they do not.

Last question - OBR or NCAA: R1 1 out. Improper batter grounds into a DP. Defense appeals BOO. Result - 2 outs, R1 instead of an inning-ending DP. Can the defense withdraw the appeal?
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So the difference is, in FED any outs made on the play stand (except the improper batter), in NCAA & OBR they do not.
Exactly!

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Last question - OBR or NCAA: R1 1 out. Improper batter grounds into a DP. Defense appeals BOO. Result - 2 outs, R1 instead of an inning-ending DP. Can the defense withdraw the appeal?
Beats me. I think I would tend to allow it - treat the initial appeal as a "what if" question from the defense. Might depend on my "mood" at the time.

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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 09:03am
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Last question - OBR or NCAA: R1 1 out. Improper batter grounds into a DP. Defense appeals BOO. Result - 2 outs, R1 instead of an inning-ending DP. Can the defense withdraw the appeal?
I would say, "no" -- the appeal, once made, must be enforced.
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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 09:29am
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dash,

1st sitch: Correct, same in NCAA & OBR.

2nd sitch: Under the FED BOO rule, upon proper appeal, the defense would get two outs - the R1 forced at 2B and the proper batter. Same result whether or not the defense completes the DP. Under NCAA & OBR, only the improper batter would be out.

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In #2, in NCAA or OBR, does R1 return to 1st base?
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cshs81,

Yes, under NCAA/OBR, runners are returned to their TOP base.

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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 11:01pm
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I don't know why anyone would appeal BOO on an inning ending DP. Just make note of the batter so the next one follows correctly.
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