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Old Thu Jul 03, 2008, 01:10pm
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Originally Posted by tibear
Have an interesting question from another website: R2 with 2 outs. Grounder hit to F6 who throws to F3 for the apparent third out. R2 continue running through third and tags home without a throw (Why would F3 throw home once the third out is called??) Offensive manager comes out and talks with the BU about a pulled foot at first on the put out. After confering with PU, BU reverses his call and says that BR is safe on the pulled foot.

What do you do with R2?? Let the run score or put him back at third or even second??
From many "moons ago" Carl Childress's infamous FAB V on calls that can legally be changed

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The FAB 5 (When calls may be legally changed)

1. Half swing called a ball changed to strike. (OBR 9.02c CMTs 1, 2, 3)

2. Two umpires make opposite calls on the same play. (common sense: only one can be accepted)

3. An umpire misapplies a rule. (9.02b/c)

4. Home run changed to double, vice versa; fair to foul, vice versa on balls hit out of the park. (professional practice)

5. "Out" called on a tag play, but the ball falls free, and another umpire observes it. (JEA 9:15-16)

The Terrible Three (Three times a call CANNOT be legally changed after it's made)

1. Swipe tag
2. Force play (or play on BR at first)
3. Fielder on/off the bag

ANY call can be corrected:

Carl: "He's out!" Then, immediately: "No, no, no. Safe! The runner is safe!!" That's bad timing -- but it's legal.
I realize the aformentioned is outdated but that criteria used to be the "motto"

Now with TV, SLO Mo replays the motto is "get the call right" however, as in this OP even if you get the call right you are WRONG.

It is very difficult to change a call AFTERWARDS that involves continuous action because of this type situation. However, MLB already set a precedent concerning the Mets Braves game this year when they retroactively declared the ball dead at the point where the call was reversed. So today anything is possible.

I agree with the others. Put R2 on third base. Do not score the run.

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