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Old Mon Apr 28, 2008, 03:30pm
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Let me add this. All of what I just said applies if no umpire noticed the situation.

If I was U3 I'm stepping in as the pitcher is ready and saying "ok, back to second".

Nobody knows what they tried to do and everyone gets to stay. Heck, I'd probably just assume there were some last second instructions.

But if I KNEW that they were trying to cheat, they'd be gone. But I, ideally, wouldn't let it get to the point where I could know that.
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2008, 04:35pm
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My tossin' finger would get some good work on this play!

Good bye R2 and most likely 3B coach
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2008, 04:54pm
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at many levels, the coach knows darn well what they're doing...it's like the people who ask for a warning for not coming to a "stop" as the runner gets thrown out at 2B...the pitcher knew darn well what he was doing.
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2008, 05:30pm
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If no umpire notices this 'situation' then they don't deserve to be on the field. This is preventive umpiring at it's 'finest'. If you have to EJ on this situation because the crew didn't notice it, and let it happen, then I would be embarrased to be the crew working this game.
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2008, 05:48pm
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If no umpire notices this 'situation' then they don't deserve to be on the field. This is preventive umpiring at it's 'finest'. If you have to EJ on this situation because the crew didn't notice it, and let it happen, then I would be embarrassed to be the crew working this game.
Agree 100%. Base umpire(s) sleeping here or what? There should be no excuse for this happening!

However, if it did happen then I'm going to have an ejection or three ...
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Old Tue Apr 29, 2008, 10:47am
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If no umpire notices this 'situation' then they don't deserve to be on the field. This is preventive umpiring at it's 'finest'. If you have to EJ on this situation because the crew didn't notice it, and let it happen, then I would be embarrased to be the crew working this game.
Amen!
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Old Tue Apr 29, 2008, 11:55am
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Preventative umpiring is where one avoids having to eject someone as much as possible and instead takes care of a potential problem in a manner that minimizes damage while still resolving the issue.
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Old Tue Apr 29, 2008, 12:13pm
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BlueZebra, if you want partners who 'punish' in this situation, then I suppose you find them. To each his own. My own personal take on this is that our job isn't to 'punish'. I've worked with these types of officials and personally I don't get much enjoyment out of those games. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
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