Spin off of our OBS/INT discussion.

[TussAgee11]

If you recall the thread about the coach's INT after OBS.

Compare it to this. What principles carry over and what do not:

2 runners are beginning to round 3rd when F5 obstructs the preceeding runner (R2). The runner's are so close that a) The following runner (R1) passes the preceeding runner because he can't stop in time or b) the following runner has to slow down to avoid passing.

Seems to me in both situations we have a direct result of OBS, unlike in the coach's INT sitch.

Therefore in a, allow play to continue and protect R2 where you need to, in order to nullify the act of OBS. Also in order to nullify, ignore the passing.

In both a and b, you might need to start protecting R1 (following runner) to a base as well, as he might slow down in order to allow the preceeding runner to repass.

I feel confident in these interps.

However, what if R1 (following runner) does not slow down and just keeps on trucking all the way to home. Could we have the R1 scoring before R2 and allow it if we choose to nullify the act of OBS???

This is the stuff that makes s***houses.

[bob jenkins]

Both FED and NCAA say a runner is out if he passes an UNOBSTRUCTED preceeding runner.

I'm not protecting / rewarding the defense for causing this mess -- allow both runs.

[TussAgee11]

But 7.08 h in OBR does not make that unobstructed stipulation...

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

But 7.08 h in OBR does not make that unobstructed stipulation...

True, but OBR's language includes awarding bases so as to "nullify the act of obstruction."

[TussAgee11]

So it is possible to to have the #4 batter score and the #3 batter standing on 3rd if you only protected him to third.

This is what I'm getting at.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

So it is possible to to have the #4 batter score and the #3 batter standing on 3rd if you only protected him to third.

This is what I'm getting at.

If you have obstruction on a runner rounding third, and the one right behind him scores, you would be awarding home anyways wouldn't you?

How would this situation be handled? Announcement of "That's obstruction!" and let the play continue so that we now have the runners out of order on the basepaths or should the base runners have to correct this as soon as possible?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

So it is possible to to have the #4 batter score and the #3 batter standing on 3rd if you only protected him to third.

This is what I'm getting at.

No. If the #4 batter scores then your protection of the #3 batter should have been to home.

[aceholleran]

Tuss, it is only April and you are upping my crnail pressure level!

Ace