Knee Injuries

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by SAump

So far, after reading posts for 3 years, including those which may have been deleted, I have found no one other than unfitump to verify your claim.

Would guarantee that you are correct. No one around here has a clue into the sports med world, the strength/power training world and the numerus references to books co-written by IU and major PT and MLB orthos refeenced, no one around here has a clue how to reference any of them.

Inablity to investigate, only in your dim world, is inability to corroborate.

Perhaps you may have run into my brother on one of his trips to DC, Russia, China and Vietnam? Talk about a profit margin that would put a smile on Sam Walton's face. He still can't travel to Cuba. No wonder, Cuba's economic outlook isn't as bright as the economic growth experienced by many of our former enemies. But my brother can travel all the way to Phuket, Thailand {half way across the world} to find similar beaches to the ones he may one day find in Havanna. My father served in the PR division during the Korean War. Went to Germany during the Cold War shortly after, when speaking English {not German} was a requirement. Later received his purple heart in the Vietnam War. Even though his Spanish is impeccable, I doubt my Dad would ever make the trip to Havanna.

wow what is that allabout?

But as unlikely as it is, if your credentials have been posted once before, then why can't they be posted once again? Is it too much work blue? I think there is some dirt under your collar. Perhaps, you should get that one shirt cleaned before you post your freaking credentials and nude photos of the Big Boston Poppi.

[Interested Ump]

Deej, let it go.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

Hey Donovan where have you been at mate? Good to see you back here to lay down the law.

By the way, fitump56 and InterestedUmp are the guys Garth and Ozzy were dissing. They're quality guys who know a lot about sports med so don't be afraid to contact one of them.

Kid, how do you form such a warm fuzzie relationships over the internet?
You don't know how dangerous your advice may be.
If your dating online, expect the run-around.

SPAM alert

Originally Posted by fitump56,
Email Interested Ump; he will send you a telephone number to call him.

Do so at your own risk of "me" injuries!

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
Damn, Garth, you are a mind (forum) reader. That's exactly what IU posted. :

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Well, now, that's not completely true. But I guess it serves your purposes.

My bad, I forgot, your Garh's Email Boi, you send him our posts so he can read them so he doesn't have to admit his Ignore List isn't on.

HAHAHAHA! Do you realize what a joke that is?

Hmm, prolly not come to think of it.

What is apparently true is his prediction that no one will provide any information that can be verified. Oh, and a search doesn't turn up any books with IU listed as an author or co-author.

No books by IU? Glory be! Any by BM? Or STFU?

I tell you what. You PM me, I'll accomodate. Not going to post them here and have them deleted for the umpteenth time, thx, but no thx.

Btw, I have given this info out to a half dozen here on the forum already. Contact any of them instead.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by SAump

Fitump, you couldn't recognize a reference if you sat in a library.
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...reference.html
Fitump, why don't you provide a fancy reference for one those severe knee injuries being discussed in the OP?

Reference? What are you blithering about? Refer to what? You need an anotomy chart?

http://tinyurl.com/yjrano

There. better now?

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by SAump

Mr Interested Ump, anything to add of any value in reference to knee injuries?

Osgood-Schlatter, the most difficult to work with. Parents, and their young athletes, want "overcome" this ailment when the only cure for this disease is extended rest. This means "off the feet" rest not "toting your 15 pound knapsack full of school books" type rest. Swelling drops quickly and up-dosages of NSAIDS/AIFs serve to give false impressions of good news.

Patellar dislocations - almost always misdiagnosed (incorrectly prescribed) as a strength balancing issue. Not so, it is a neuromuscular incognizance, a feedback of the nervous system gone wary. The body-brain doesn't locate the foot strike properly, usually coincides with some type of inability to determine in 3D space where one (foot) exists. Upon landing, the feedback is either incorrect (firing of the wrong muscular sequences) or the anticipation (see referenced space determination issue) is inaccurate. Either, the patellae is pulled out of the knee notch alignment (not good, very painful, reoccurrence guaranteed).

Meniscal tears - Never had one that couldn't be managed without surgery unless the tear was post-operative casualty. You can take that to mean whatever you wish.

Attach the WebMD link here, as well, because I can't afford spam PM from IMPOSTERS.

Typically, I find that the world of science, scientific research, studies, citations and even the occassional abstract of greater value than WebMD. YMMV and apparently it does.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by SAump

However, that train left the station earlier today.

Perhaps, while I wait for the next train to come along, you 2 boys can stop the AIF statements, boasting with grandiosity and ideas of sugarplums in your head, and answer the freaking question. This here thread is about severe knee injuries. I lost count how many posts were tracking the whereabouts of your lost credentials and how many were directed at the OP. This "won" brought a smile to my face. See no insults or inuendos. Just some feedback or food for thought. So to speak of food, have a nice day.

ok

I have accomodated your requests. This post of yours above, seriously, I haven't the foggiest what the heck it means. If you will excuse me, I will ignore it.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Interested Ump

ok

I have accomodated your requests. This post of yours above, seriously, I haven't the foggiest what the heck it means. If you will excuse me, I will ignore it.

Whatever Osgood. RIF Schlatter. The most difficult to work with, yeah right.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by fitump56

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No books by IU? Glory be! Any by BM? Or STFU?

Noped. Checked all the appropriate names: Ima Phakir, I.B. Lion, Walter Rucker.

Nothing comes up.

Btw, I have given this info out to a half dozen here on the forum already. Contact any of them instead.

Name two.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by SAump

However, that train left the station earlier today. This here thread is about severe knee injuries.

Read this entire 2nd page again. Perhaps, while I wait for the next train to come along, you 2 boys can stop the AIF statements, boasting with grandiosity and ideas of sugarplums in your head, and answer the freaking question about knee injuries. I lost count how many posts were tracking the whereabouts of your lost credentials and how many were directed at the OP.

This "won" brought a smile to my face. See no insults or inuendos. Just some feedback or food for thought. So to speak of food, have a nice breakfast.

This here is the postings of a drunk. Adios, El Drunko.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Noped. Checked all the appropriate names: Ima Phakir, I.B. Lion, Walter Rucker.

Nothing comes up.

Nothing on that bastion of scientific info on WebMed? Try Dr. Kildare, or Dr. Phil or Dr. Doctor, get back to me ASAP.

[kcmasterpiece]

I have had six knee operations (3 on each) and had the right knee reconstructed. The rehab time really depends on how well your knee/leg is in shape prior to the surgery. At your age your down time (scope only) should be no longer than 2-3 weeks max. If you have it reconstructed (replace the ACL) then the rehab time is about 6-9 months, depending on how often you rehab it.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Noped. Checked all the appropriate names: Ima Phakir, I.B. Lion, Walter Rucker.

Nothing comes up.

Why would they?

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by kcmasterpiece

I have had six knee operations (3 on each) and had the right knee reconstructed. The rehab time really depends on how well your knee/leg is in shape prior to the surgery. At your age your down time (scope only) should be no longer than 2-3 weeks max. If you have it reconstructed (replace the ACL) then the rehab time is about 6-9 months, depending on how often you rehab it.

The poster is correct, the physical condition of the patient has a great influence on recovery.

The terms "rehab" and "downtime" need to be construed within the patient's considerations. For instance, typical PT is designed to bring the typical surgical patient (knee of the OP e.g.) upright and mobile. There may be continued swelling, quadriceps weakness (visible from muscular degeneration and atrophy), limping, etc. The patient could return to work which is one of the common milestones in knee rehabilitation.

Dealing with athletes (my experience level almost entirely), we have a much different set of problems, physical conditions and end results as goals.

An umpire is an athlete. Let me rephrase. Umpires in our organizations are required to be athletic to call 60/90 baseball. This means highly mobile with one milestone being able to get distance on fly ball calls (from A) and to cover 2B from PU.

The set of goals, as you can see, are quite different than the typical office worker and the use of the term "rehab" has come to mean "post rehabilitation" to us.

Managed medicine determines, for those who use insurances to pay for PT, the length and breadth, often the prescription itself, of PT. Post-rehab is not managed, it is fee based not funds based and is is often the realm of the science-based strength and power trainer who is almost always the proper professional for the athletic post-rehabilitation patient/athlete.

[Anonymous67]

Originally Posted by wmblue

I know there have been a few umpires who have experienced some knee injuries around here and I think I'm joining that list. I injured myself on Monday night, already have a slightly torn MCL and menisucs issue as well.

After my injury, I met with a general physician this morning who told me that there is a large fluid build up and that I'm facing either rehab or surgery. I have an MRI and follow up with a specialist end of this week.

I'm at the point that I don't want to fight this issue the rest of my life (I'm 33) and think that if surgery is offered, I will do that.

Having said that, what are people's experiences with rehab times and time away from the field?

Is it unrealistic to think I could return to do summer ball? I imagine that school ball is out as the season is only 10 weeks long.

For those who have had MCL surgery how much time from your day job did you miss and what is the rehab period like?

I'm conjecturing at this point but also preparing for what might be.

Any info would be appreciated.

Alex

Alex: From what I've seen in this thread, there isn't a doctor or medical expert present. Please select a good primary physician, get references on surgeons and seek second opinions on any advice regarding surgery.

For PT, make sure your surgeon remains actively involved in evaluating both the program and your progress.

Any further questions? Don't ask them here. See your doctors.