Time of Award

[dash_riprock]

Bobby's logic sounds good to me.

Two from the time of throw. Score him.

[umpjong]

Please cite specific reference in rule book that says a thrown ball lodging in a defensive player's uniform is dead at all?

8-3-3 c clearly states "two base award if a batted or thrown ball becomes dead because of bouncing over or passing through a fence, or lodges in a defensive players or umpires equipment or uniform.

So dead ball give him two bases from throw!!!

Originally Posted by umpjong

8-3-3 c clearly states "two base award if a batted or thrown ball becomes dead because of bouncing over or passing through a fence, or lodges in a defensive players or umpires equipment or uniform.

So dead ball give him two bases from throw!!!

I'm not disagreeing -but the above statement can be interpreted in different ways.

The problem with the above is that this is the only place in the rule book that that associates a lodged ball in a defensive players uniform and an immediate (or delayed) dead ball. It's not mentioned in the dead ball tables, other than a batted ball (5-1-1)

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by BigGuy

I'm not disagreeing -but the above statement can be interpreted in different ways.

The problem with the above is that this is the only place in the rule book that that associates a lodged ball in a defensive players uniform and an immediate (or delayed) dead ball. It's not mentioned in the dead ball tables, other than a batted ball (5-1-1)

Hmmmmm. Let me ponder.

Which has the affect of rule.....a rule or a table placed in the in the book for the convenience of the reader?

Should they disagree, which one should take precedence over the other?
Hmmmmmm.

Tough choice, but I'm going out on a limb here and taking the rule.

Originally Posted by GarthB

Hmmmmm. Let me ponder.

Which has the affect of rule.....a rule or a table placed in the in the book for the convenience of the reader?

Should they disagree, which one should take precedence over the other?
Hmmmmmm.

Tough choice, but I'm going out on a limb here and taking the rule.

Which rule would that be? The one that isn't written under dead ball rules or the one that appears to create a dead ball in the baserunning awards table.

There is a distinct conflict here. What about 10-2-3g? Maybe this is one of those times.

[BretMan]

I would guess that the rule being referred to is 8-3-5.

Though the exact play being discussed here isn't spelled-out, the final sentence under that rule would seem to indicate that the correct award is two bases from time of throw. The play fits the definition of "subsequent play by an infielder".