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At the risk of starting a major flame war, what do you all think about this site that I stumbled upon when doing a google news search for "umpire"?
http://www.blackathlete.net/artman2/...d_Series.shtml http://www.blackathlete.net/artman2/..._Scandal.shtml http://www.blackathlete.net/Blackbox...alreport3.html |
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...i don't think MLB is keeping a vast abundance of black umpires in the minors just because they're black, which is what this website seems to be implying. If a black umpire is qualified to work in the MLB, he will work there without question. In regards to hiring black officials, my friend who is black and working his way up into the higher echelon in another sport has told me "it will get your foot in the door, but it sure won't keep you there." They are right, there is a lack of black umpires in the MLB, but to call MLB racist is terrible, since that would imply that they are not hiring black umpires simply because they are black, which i don't think is the case. |
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MLB hires umpires with an eye on demographics. Blacks have turned away from baseball since black athletes have turned away from baseball. SNAP SNAP ![]()
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But it is also clear that Mike Winters embarassed major league umpires. |
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There could be a lot of possibilities. It could be there are not very many Black umpires in general. I do not see a lot of Black people participating in baseball for many reasons. I know in my local areas there are very few Blacks that even want to umpire at the HS level. That does not mean there is not discrimination that is very active. I have no idea, I personally do not know of any personal situations where discrimination has taken place, but I do live in America and if things have not changed in other aspects of society, why would I expect it to be so drastically different here.
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I work a lot of summer basketball and almost all the officials that are white never move and that is even the very good and experienced official. I really do not understand the generalizations you just made. Peace
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And in many cases as someone that has worked college and HS games, I am by far just about the only African-American working. I can count on both hands the number of times I have worked games with other African-Americans in my career. So the issue in my opinion is not just discrimination, it is also participation. I am not so sure there are many African-Americans that even try to go into pro ball if they are not in the other areas of amateur ball. I did not read all the material in the web site and it sounds more like a bunch of opinions, but that does not mean some of the information is not correct. I just think there is more to the lack of Black umpires in MLB than simply discrimination. And comments like you made earlier does not make me think things have completely changed. You do not have to be a racist to practice stereotypes that can affect opportunity. Peace
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30% of Cubans identify themselves as completely or partially of African descent. 96% of Jamaicans identify themselves as completely or partially of African descent. These gentlemen may not properly identify with African-Americans, but may identify with Afro-Cubans and Jamaicans of African descent. The populations of most of the Caribbean "Hispanic" countries evolved from African slaves as much as from the Eurpoean settlers. Inter-race marriage was accepted far earlier in these countries than in North America and, partially as a result, they have experienced fewer tensions between the African descendants and the Eurpoean descendants. In many cases, in most countries, they are one and the same.
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