Chipper Jones - #1 whiner in baseball?

[socalblue1]

Need one say more?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

[David B]

Originally Posted by socalblue1

Need one say more?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Yeah they are on a losing streak mainly because of their lack of pitching, but he also has a point - MLB umpires have taken a step back.

Just read all of the posts this season - a lot more than usual.

And Reed does have an awful strike zone.

Thanks
David

[justanotherblue]

Funny how he didn't complain when Maddox and Glavine were pitching for the Braves. Talk about wide strike zones. I watched Lopez set up with his outside foot out of the box and get a strike simply because he didnt move. The ball was off the plate by more than just a bit. He didn't complain then, so why is he complaining now?

I didn't agree with it then, and I don't agree with it now, still, perhaps he would like some cheese and crackers also!

[scarolinablue]

He learned from #1, his longtime manager, Bobby Cox. Now that's the definition of RAT!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by David B

Yeah they are on a losing streak mainly because of their lack of pitching, but he also has a point - MLB umpires have taken a step back.

Just read all of the posts this season - a lot more than usual.

And Reed does have an awful strike zone.

Thanks
David

So the amount of whining is related to the quality of umpiring? Your post sounds like it was written by a Braves fan......or a rat.

[JRutledge]

I saw several pitches from the game last night. Two of the pitches were clearly strikes that Chipper looked at and it appeared he was not happy with. There was one that was very close, but if you want to watch pitches, you put it in the hand of the umpire to make a judgment. He even walked on a pitch that was very close and the umpire balled that I think could have easily been called a strike.

The problem with a lot of players is they want someone to help them out. If you do not want to be called for a strike, swing the damn bat. Not all pitches are going to be right down the middle so you can drive them out of the park.

Peace

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by David B

Yeah they are on a losing streak mainly because of their lack of pitching, but he also has a point - MLB umpires have taken a step back.

Just read all of the posts this season - a lot more than usual.

And Reed does have an awful strike zone.

Thanks
David

Did you see the game?

Reed did not have "an awful strike zone." His was very close to what MLB has been yammering for the last five years, more vertical than horizontal.

The pitches Chippy moaned about were strikes.

I find it amazing that he whines that loudly when even a frustrated Bobby Cox didn't complain about it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Did you see the game?

Reed did not have "an awful strike zone." His was very close to what MLB has been yammering for the last five years, more vertical than horizontal.

The pitches Chippy moaned about were strikes.

I find it amazing that he whines that loudly when even a frustrated Bobby Cox didn't complain about it.

It was a high strike. For Chipper to say the pitch was in the other batter's box is ludicrous. He just assumes all watching are umpire-hating morons.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

It was a high strike. For Chipper to say the pitch was in the other batter's box is ludicrous. He just assumes all watching are umpire-hating morons.

The key is that it was a high strike, right where MLB has said it wants it called.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by GarthB

The key is that it was a high strike, right where MLB has said it wants it called.

Ah, your claim here distinguishes you from Chipper and his ilk. They all think that THEY are MLB.

Some suit-wearing, latte-sipping, wannabe poseurs yammering at umpires about how to call a plate has nothing to do with baseball: Chipper himself said he has more walks than strikeouts, so obviously he knows where the strike zone is.
[/tongue-in-cheek]

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It was a high strike. For Chipper to say the pitch was in the other batter's box is ludicrous. He just assumes all watching are umpire-hating morons.

No, he knows that many watching are Chippie Jones fans who swoon at his every word. As of 2006, I saw Atlanta women who wore shirts by the gross that said.

"I want to be Chipper's Dipper"
"Chipper, Hoot at My Hooters"
"We Luv You, Chipper"

Fathers on diamonds "Ok, Chipper does it this way, he knows, listen to him"

Here's the best ones overheard by Roswell GA mothers in the stands.

"She (Chippies first wife, they NEVER use her real name) didn't satisfy him.
She got what she deserved.
She's getting all that money too.
He was tempted, she could have been there for him
He's alone when he travels, it wasn't right but..
Ok, he cheated on her. That was wrong. But look where she is now!"

Yes, Atlanta luvs Chippie and Chippie luvs to play out his "sorrows" to Atlanta.

Excuse me while I vomit.

[SanDiegoSteve]

By far your best post ever. I could not agree more. Did I say that?

[David B]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Did you see the game?

Reed did not have "an awful strike zone." His was very close to what MLB has been yammering for the last five years, more vertical than horizontal.

The pitches Chippy moaned about were strikes.

I find it amazing that he whines that loudly when even a frustrated Bobby Cox didn't complain about it.

I didn't watch the entire game but I did see the at bat Chipper talked about. I thought the pitch was up and in.

Must be just me but I still don't like the high strike they try to get called, its just not consistent game to game no matter how hard they try.

Generally, Reed is not one of the better ball and strike umps - haven't see the charts this year where the players rate the umpires but if I remember right he's usually not at the top of the list.

thansk
David

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by David B

Generally, Reed is not one of the better ball and strike umps - haven't see the charts this year where the players rate the umpires but if I remember right he's usually not at the top of the list.

thansk
David

In the olden days of the pathetic Eric Greggs and Joe Wests, their zones were so comical that they deserved bottom rankings. Today, zones are much tighter, more uniform. Gregg wouldn't have lasted a half-season.

Point: How much can the players actually tell about zones? It's more a small "miss" here or there. How many actually track umps, sitting on the bench all but 4 ABs at best a game.

I'll take technology over players (ala Whiner Chippie Jones) any day.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by David B

I didn't watch the entire game but I did see the at bat Chipper talked about. I thought the pitch was up and in.

Must be just me but I still don't like the high strike they try to get called, its just not consistent game to game no matter how hard they try.

Generally, Reed is not one of the better ball and strike umps - haven't see the charts this year where the players rate the umpires but if I remember right he's usually not at the top of the list.

thansk
David

God, David, who CARES what the players think?