Voluntary Release Play...

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by fitump56

No view = ask partner.

No way do you go to your partner on this play.

Read the OP, what is your partner looking at? He is watching the runner on 3rd not your tag play at 2nd. I've got an out at 2nd, you've got to demonstrate some control and voluntary release on the tag play. The ball is on the ground, no control or voluntary release or the ball wouldn't be on the ground.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.

Originally Posted by etn_ump

No way do you go to your partner on this play.

Read the OP, what is your partner looking at? He is watching the runner on 3rd not your tag play at 2nd. I've got an out at 2nd, you've got to demonstrate some control and voluntary release on the tag play. The ball is on the ground, no control or voluntary release or the ball wouldn't be on the ground.

He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.



He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

If it makes you feel better he told me in the parking lot that he had no view of it and had already turned to watch R3's break from home.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.

He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

If it makes you feel better he told me in the parking lot that he had no view of it and had already turned to watch R3's break from home.

But you didn't know that until after the game. The guys I work with, if they had a different call, a glance or a hand sign, me to partner or partner to me, we would be on the same page immediately. You may not have that luxury.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.



He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

Because your partner has a job to do on this play, and it's not to provide backup to you ... it's to watch the base-touch on the other runner and prepare for a possible play there.

If partner saw anything he could add to your call, then he wasn't doing his job. Don't know about you, but I make the assumption that my partner is doing his job. Bringing this one to him is frankly an insult to his abilities, and puts doubt into everyone else's minds about YOUR abilities. Stick with the call on this one.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.

He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Because your partner has a job to do on this play, and it's not to provide backup to you ... it's to watch the base-touch on the other runner and prepare for a possible play there.

What if he wasn't doing that? Are you willing to get a call wrong because you don't want to at least attempt to get your partner's input?

If partner saw anything he could add to your call, then he wasn't doing his job. Don't know about you, but I make the assumption that my partner is doing his job.

I make no assumptions whatsoever and the fact he may have other responsibilities does not mean he couldn't have looked my way.

Bringing this one to him is frankly an insult to his abilities, and puts doubt into everyone else's minds about YOUR abilities. Stick with the call on this one.

BS, take your ego and partner's and leave then at the gate to the field. The insult is in not doing so.

[TussAgee11]

Thanks fitump, for telling what I did was wrong by not going to my partner on this play. If mcrowder's opinion didn't mean enough to me (which it does), your opinion opposite of his does double, which means I not only did correct once, but twice.

-Tuss

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Thanks fitump, for telling what I did was wrong by not going to my partner on this play. If mcrowder's opinion didn't mean enough to me (which it does), your opinion opposite of his does double, which means I not only did correct once, but twice.

-Tuss

Not sure what all that above means except to say that many posters were repeatedly attempting to claim that you had a view. You repeatedly claimed you didn't. Them's the facts, Jacts.

Wrong not going to your partner? That's up to you. For me? no view = ask partner.

[David B]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Originally Posted by fitump56
No view = ask partner.



He clearly said he had "no view" of the play.

No view = ask partner. I don't see why not.

He did have a view of the play - he just didn't see the ball - if the fielder dropped in transfer how could the coach see that anyway - he's 100 feet away.

Ignore the coach and make the call. Bob has the right viewpoint as far as terminology.

As far as the second part of the post above, nothing needs to be said as it makes no sense at all.

Bottomline, its not my job to call strikes 90 feet away and its not PU's job to make a call at second base that he wasn't looking at anyway.

Thanks
David

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by David B

He did have a view of the play - he just didn't see the ball - if the fielder dropped in transfer how could the coach see that anyway - he's 100 feet away.

OK, one last tims, specifically quoting the OP who himslef has said this 3X in this thread.

"The problem wasn't timing, my problem was literally not seeing the play. It wasn't that I had my mind made up before I had processed it all, its that my eyes were literally incapable of seeing part of the play."

Ignore the coach and make the call.

Never said you should be concerned about the coach just no view = ask partner.