Pre Game Discussions

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

What I could use, as another poster mentioned, is a red book or CIBA or whatever it's called. They don't sell umpiring books in Canada, but I will be in Cooperstown and will see what they have there.

The CCA Manual and The Manual For The Two Umpire System (Red Book) are available online at Gerry Davis Sports

Originally Posted by canadaump6

Plus why should any umpire have to hang around in the parking lot? That's not professional, you don't get any privacy, and you make yourself noticed before you even step on the field.

Most of us aren't fortunate to have a place to change other than a parking lot. There are some places I umpire where there's a locker room of sorts for us, but they're few and far between.


Tim.

[ozzy6900]

I just got through working with a partner that I never worked with. He arrived 30 minutes before the game and announced that he had the plate. We went over coverages with no one on and men on. We went over putting the ball in play and fair and foul coverage.

Once the game began, He never put the ball in play, never followed the batter runner, never covered 3rd. I went out 3 times from the A position only to turn around to find him still at the plate. When I was "in", I had no idea if a ball hit down the line was fair or foul. Needless to say, it was one hell of a pain in the a$$ to work with this person.

So to those who think that pre-game discussions are a waste, you don't know what you are talking about. Standing out there not knowing what your partner is doing or where he will be is one of the worst things that can happen. No one who thinks like this (lack of pre-game) should even umpire a LL game!

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I just got through working with a partner that I never worked with. He arrived 30 minutes before the game and announced that he had the plate. We went over coverages with no one on and men on. We went over putting the ball in play and fair and foul coverage.

Once the game began, He never put the ball in play, never followed the batter runner, never covered 3rd. I went out 3 times from the A position only to turn around to find him still at the plate. When I was "in", I had no idea if a ball hit down the line was fair or foul. Needless to say, it was one hell of a pain in the a$$ to work with this person.

So to those who think that pre-game discussions are a waste, you don't know what you are talking about. Standing out there not knowing what your partner is doing or where he will be is one of the worst things that can happen. No one who thinks like this (lack of pre-game) should even umpire a LL game!

I agree so I don't ump LL. If pre-game isn't a waste, then WTF was your pre-game.

Pre-games with morons (which many umps are), pre-games with those who don't know enough to engage in a meaningful pre-game (which many umps qualify), pre-game with those who don't need it because they have worked together so often...looks to me like pre-games, since they are touted to be of such great value on this Forum, don't have such great value.

Which, again, is my entire point. It's a bunch of BS those that on this Forum are constanlty claiming great value to pre-games.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

The CCA Manual and The Manual For The Two Umpire System (Red Book) are available online at Gerry Davis Sports


Tim.

Yeah, but it costs something on the order of $800 to ship it to Canada....

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
The CCA Manual and The Manual For The Two Umpire System (Red Book) are available online at Gerry Davis Sports


Tim.

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Yeah, but it costs something on the order of $800 to ship it to Canada....

Sounds to me like an opportunity for you. Charge $500 and take it yourself.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Yeah, but it costs something on the order of $800 to ship it to Canada....

Or, at the current exchange rate, CDN $5.