ESPN: "Are ejections getting out of hand?"

[UMP25]

Ozzie Guillen gets tossed Sunday (this White Sox fan says thank God, BTW). Grady Little gets tossed Sunday. Lou Piniella gets tossed Saturday and is suspended indefinitely. Joe Torre gets tossed Saturday.

On Sportscenter Sunday following the Yankess-Red Sox game--gee, a Yankees game on ESPN, what a shock--the Eastern Seaboard Propaganda Network ran a segment about MLB ejections and how they are getting out of hand. Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

Whatever.

Gotta love ESPN, eh?

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

[GarthB]

I don't think MLB has a problem with arguments and ejections. But I think they want the out of control behavior that Lou and that idiot MiLB manager demonstrated to be part of the past.

[UMP25]

But as the gods at ESPN said, the umpires are getting out of hand with their ejections.

[DG]

I tossed 2 players and a coach Saturday (same team) and eventually called the game a forfeit, second forfeit in my time. Seemed warranted to me at the time and still does. What is really interesting is the team was winning 15-0 at the time so why they wanted to show their *ss and get the game forfeited I don't know.

[SanDiegoSteve]

The only one on Baseball Tonight who thought Sheffield's ejection wasn't warranted was that ex-rat tub of goop Kruk. They kept trying to explain to him that Sheffield got run for throwing the bat handle at the umpire. Kruk just couldn't believe that Sheffield deserved to be run. What can we expect from such a rat (once a rat, always a rat).

[bluezebra]

"Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine."

Let's see. Pinella was giving his imitation of George Blanda, kicking his cap instead of a football, all over Wrigley Field. Not to mention kicking dirt on the umpire. What, if anything, was Kruk watching?

Bob

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The only one on Baseball Tonight who thought Sheffield's ejection wasn't warranted was that ex-rat tub of goop Kruk. They kept trying to explain to him that Sheffield got run for throwing the bat handle at the umpire. Kruk just couldn't believe that Sheffield deserved to be run. What can we expect from such a rat (once a rat, always a rat).

ex-rat tub of goop.

Isn't that bigotry against overweight people? Plus, he did lose weight the Nutri-System way.

www.nutrisystem.com

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The only one on Baseball Tonight who thought Sheffield's ejection wasn't warranted was that ex-rat tub of goop Kruk. They kept trying to explain to him that Sheffield got run for throwing the bat handle at the umpire. Kruk just couldn't believe that Sheffield deserved to be run. What can we expect from such a rat (once a rat, always a rat).

Sheffield did not deserve to be run. His toss of the shattered handle of a bat was nowhere close to the umpire. Sheffield will win on appeal if anyone bothers to look at the replay.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

Think we'll see Krukkie admit that what he was arguing was actually incorrect?

[David B]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

Most of the time that managers argue - the call was correct anyway.

MLB umpires are very good and just don't miss too many calls.

As far as ejections - as the temperature gets hotter, so do the tempers. Happens every summer. Something about the heat brings out the wrath of players and coaches.

Also remember, coaches/managers don't always argue because they thought the call was wrong - most of the time it has something to do with other calls earlier in the contest from another umpire or they are frustrated with the PU's strike zone etc.,

Finally they get a close call and they go after the "umpire that made the call", but in reality they are either frustrated with the game or their players.

Thanks
David

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Ozzie Guillen gets tossed Sunday (this White Sox fan says thank God, BTW). Grady Little gets tossed Sunday. Lou Piniella gets tossed Saturday and is suspended indefinitely. Joe Torre gets tossed Saturday.

On Sportscenter Sunday following the Yankess-Red Sox game--gee, a Yankees game on ESPN, what a shock--the Eastern Seaboard Propaganda Network ran a segment about MLB ejections and how they are getting out of hand. Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

Whatever.

Gotta love ESPN, eh?

First things First

ESPN like other broadcast companies are "in it" for the ratings ONLY. Generally speaking Baseball does not have good TV ratings. Baseball is a Regional sport meaning the Yanks / BOSOX series will have excellent ratings here in the East but what about the rest of the country whereas a football game between the Colts vs. the New England Patriots will have a national Audience.

Therefore, ESPN will print any headline that can "tweak"the fans to get some ratings.

Also, there are no former umpires in the ESPN booth so one will get the kinds of remarks that you see/hear. Let's say you did have former major league baseball umpires present and asked them how did they feel when a manager kicked dirt at them etc.

In a nutshell in major league baseball it's all "part of the Show"

The problem is for us amateurs when managers think they can act like they see on TV.

Pete Booth

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

First things First

ESPN like other broadcast companies are "in it" for the ratings ONLY. Generally speaking Baseball does not have good TV ratings. Baseball is a Regional sport meaning the Yanks / BOSOX series will have excellent ratings here in the East but what about the rest of the country whereas a football game between the Colts vs. the New England Patriots will have a national Audience.

Therefore, ESPN will print any headline that can "tweak"the fans to get some ratings.

Also, there are no former umpires in the ESPN booth so one will get the kinds of remarks that you see/hear. Let's say you did have former major league baseball umpires present and asked them how did they feel when a manager kicked dirt at them etc.

In a nutshell in major league baseball it's all "part of the Show"

The problem is for us amateurs when managers think they can act like they see on TV.

Pete Booth

Ron Luciano was once an analyst on network tv.

Problem is with umpires as color men on TV, they cannot tell the aneccdotes that are the funniest, since it is a family event.

Truth be told. Umpires make better story tellers than ex-players.....but have no star power.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

First things First

ESPN like other broadcast companies are "in it" for the ratings ONLY. Generally speaking Baseball does not have good TV ratings. Baseball is a Regional sport meaning the Yanks / BOSOX series will have excellent ratings here in the East but what about the rest of the country whereas a football game between the Colts vs. the New England Patriots will have a national Audience.

Therefore, ESPN will print any headline that can "tweak"the fans to get some ratings.

Also, there are no former umpires in the ESPN booth so one will get the kinds of remarks that you see/hear. Let's say you did have former major league baseball umpires present and asked them how did they feel when a manager kicked dirt at them etc.

In a nutshell in major league baseball it's all "part of the Show"

The problem is for us amateurs when managers think they can act like they see on TV.

Pete Booth

Next you are going to tell us that the New York Times is "in it" to sell newspapers.