ESPN: "Are ejections getting out of hand?"

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mattmets

No...I meant Silent Lou. I meant that he didn't go out and kick dirt and leave. Some not so nice words were exchanged, leading to his running himself.

Arrgh! The first thing he did was throw his hat, which led to his immediate ejection.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mattmets

No...I meant Silent Lou. I meant that he didn't go out and kick dirt and leave. Some not so nice words were exchanged, leading to his running himself.

Maybe you didn't see the ejection, or understand what Rich is telling you. Sweet Lou threw his hat and was immediately ejected.

THROWN HAT = EJECTION. Okay?

He was not tossed for arguing or kicking dirt. All that occurred AFTER he threw his hat and was ejected.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Maybe you didn't see the ejection, or understand what Rich is telling you. Sweet Lou threw his hat and was immediately ejected.

THROWN HAT = EJECTION. Okay?

He was not tossed for arguing or kicking dirt. All that occurred AFTER he threw his hat and was ejected.

I KNOW THAT.

IF you read my post, it was a response to mbyron, who thought I had confused Piniella's nickname. I said that I didn't. I don't know how you are all reading a response to poster A (byron) as a response to poster B (Rich).

Can we just stop attacking me and get back to ridiculing ESPN for employing that fat slob Kruk and their merry band of idiots who are running their mouths?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mattmets

I KNOW THAT.

IF you read my post, it was a response to mbyron, who thought I had confused Piniella's nickname. I said that I didn't. I don't know how you are all reading a response to poster A (byron) as a response to poster B (Rich).

Can we just stop attacking me and get back to ridiculing ESPN for employing that fat slob Kruk and their merry band of idiots who are running their mouths?

I like Kruk. And what's his being fat have to do with anything? I mean, he once told a lady that he wasn't an athlete, merely a baseball player. Of course, he was one of my favorite players when he was with the Phillies.

Kruk plays a role, just like the umpires.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mattmets

I KNOW THAT.

IF you read my post, it was a response to mbyron, who thought I had confused Piniella's nickname. I said that I didn't. I don't know how you are all reading a response to poster A (byron) as a response to poster B (Rich).

Can we just stop attacking me and get back to ridiculing ESPN for employing that fat slob Kruk and their merry band of idiots who are running their mouths?

I'm responding to this statement you made: "Some not so nice words were exchanged, leading to his running himself."

Since that wasn't the case, it seemed pretty clear you misunderstood the ejection.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Kruk plays a role...

Yep. And apparently the pay for fat buffon is pretty good these days.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I like Kruk. And what's his being fat have to do with anything? I mean, he once told a lady that he wasn't an athlete, merely a baseball player. Of course, he was one of my favorite players when he was with the Phillies.

Kruk plays a role, just like the umpires.

OK, his being fat has nothing to do with it. But he's fairly incompetent when it comes to analyzing baseball. Some of the things he says make absolutely no sense, like when he said a 40-year old Randy Johnson would win 30 games with the Yankees in 2005.

It's a shame that ESPN, the "Worldwide Leader in Sports", offers such awful coverage of baseball. It leads to a lot of the problems we see with coaches & players' behavior, not understanding the basics of the game, and such a stubborn refusal to look at anything other than 'intangibles'.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Yep. And apparently the pay for fat buffon is pretty good these days.

The thing is, I think it's unrealistic for a 20-year player to all of a sudden not be a rat.

Ooh, Phillies start in 10 minutes. Chalk up another advantage to working from home.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I'm responding to this statement you made: "Some not so nice words were exchanged, leading to his running himself."

Since that wasn't the case, it seemed pretty clear you misunderstood the ejection.

The replays they showed on ESPN never actually showed Lou getting dumped...so my thinking (and I think you can understand it, even if it's wrong) was that Lou came out, threw a "You f!*%ing suck!" at Mark, got tossed, and had his reason to go crazy. If we threw it as soon as he got out there, he definitely had to go.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by mattmets

The replays they showed on ESPN never actually showed Lou getting dumped...so my thinking (and I think you can understand it, even if it's wrong) was that Lou came out, threw a "You f!*%ing suck!" at Mark, got tossed, and had his reason to go crazy. If we threw it as soon as he got out there, he definitely had to go.

You mean they didn't give him "his" warning first? Extreme sarc

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The only one on Baseball Tonight who thought Sheffield's ejection wasn't warranted was that ex-rat tub of goop Kruk. They kept trying to explain to him that Sheffield got run for throwing the bat handle at the umpire. Kruk just couldn't believe that Sheffield deserved to be run. What can we expect from such a rat (once a rat, always a rat).

ex-rat tub of goop.

Isn't that bigotry against overweight people? Plus, he did lose weight the Nutri-System way.

www.nutrisystem.com

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by SAump

Have you seen the young camera men trotting alongside the players from 3B to Home? I have my fingers crossed that one of those guys will trip and damage his expensive camera. Some executives clearly don't understand the "proper use of the eyes" or the technolgy available.

I absolutely hate that guy. Sick as it is, I'm hoping they trip too. I don't think we need cameras everywhere....let's let the guys play balls and keep the cameras to a minimum.

[legend]

Espn has some excellent baseball guys in the studio IMO. Soup, Gammons, and Tim kurljian are all good at analyzing games. They also had a former player who did an outstanding job of color commentary, play by play and in studio work in Herald Reynolds but he messed that up himself. I also think that Joe Morgan does a nice job. I hate the fox crew! I despise Tim McCarver and I could live without Buck also (though he's better the McCarver) The best thing McCarver ever did was get soaked 3 times from Dion Sanders in their locker room.

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Ozzie Guillen gets tossed Sunday (this White Sox fan says thank God, BTW). Grady Little gets tossed Sunday. Lou Piniella gets tossed Saturday and is suspended indefinitely. Joe Torre gets tossed Saturday.

On Sportscenter Sunday following the Yankess-Red Sox game--gee, a Yankees game on ESPN, what a shock--the Eastern Seaboard Propaganda Network ran a segment about MLB ejections and how they are getting out of hand. Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

Whatever.

Gotta love ESPN, eh?

First things First

ESPN like other broadcast companies are "in it" for the ratings ONLY. Generally speaking Baseball does not have good TV ratings. Baseball is a Regional sport meaning the Yanks / BOSOX series will have excellent ratings here in the East but what about the rest of the country whereas a football game between the Colts vs. the New England Patriots will have a national Audience.

Therefore, ESPN will print any headline that can "tweak"the fans to get some ratings.

Also, there are no former umpires in the ESPN booth so one will get the kinds of remarks that you see/hear. Let's say you did have former major league baseball umpires present and asked them how did they feel when a manager kicked dirt at them etc.

In a nutshell in major league baseball it's all "part of the Show"

The problem is for us amateurs when managers think they can act like they see on TV.

Pete Booth

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

ex-rat tub of goop.

Isn't that bigotry against overweight people? Plus, he did lose weight the Nutri-System way.

I am overweight. Kruk is an ex-rat tub of goop. What did he do, eat triple portions?