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UMP25 Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:48pm

ESPN: "Are ejections getting out of hand?"
 
Ozzie Guillen gets tossed Sunday (this White Sox fan says thank God, BTW). Grady Little gets tossed Sunday. Lou Piniella gets tossed Saturday and is suspended indefinitely. Joe Torre gets tossed Saturday.

On Sportscenter Sunday following the Yankess-Red Sox game--gee, a Yankees game on ESPN, what a shock--the Eastern Seaboard Propaganda Network ran a segment about MLB ejections and how they are getting out of hand. Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

Whatever.

Gotta love ESPN, eh? :rolleyes:

umpduck11 Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:54pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine.

And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

GarthB Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:58pm

I don't think MLB has a problem with arguments and ejections. But I think they want the out of control behavior that Lou and that idiot MiLB manager demonstrated to be part of the past.

UMP25 Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:58pm

But as the gods at ESPN said, the umpires are getting out of hand with their ejections.

DG Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:02am

I tossed 2 players and a coach Saturday (same team) and eventually called the game a forfeit, second forfeit in my time. Seemed warranted to me at the time and still does. What is really interesting is the team was winning 15-0 at the time so why they wanted to show their *ss and get the game forfeited I don't know.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jun 04, 2007 01:42am

The only one on Baseball Tonight who thought Sheffield's ejection wasn't warranted was that ex-rat tub of goop Kruk. They kept trying to explain to him that Sheffield got run for throwing the bat handle at the umpire. Kruk just couldn't believe that Sheffield deserved to be run. What can we expect from such a rat (once a rat, always a rat).

bluezebra Mon Jun 04, 2007 02:27am

"Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine."

Let's see. Pinella was giving his imitation of George Blanda, kicking his cap instead of a football, all over Wrigley Field. Not to mention kicking dirt on the umpire. What, if anything, was Kruk watching?

Bob

mbyron Mon Jun 04, 2007 06:39am

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Originally Posted by umpduck11
And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

Think we'll see Krukkie admit that what he was arguing was actually incorrect?

David B Mon Jun 04, 2007 08:19am

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Originally Posted by umpduck11
And today Piniella admitted that the call he was arguing was actually correct....... go figure.

Most of the time that managers argue - the call was correct anyway.

MLB umpires are very good and just don't miss too many calls.

As far as ejections - as the temperature gets hotter, so do the tempers. Happens every summer. Something about the heat brings out the wrath of players and coaches.

Also remember, coaches/managers don't always argue because they thought the call was wrong - most of the time it has something to do with other calls earlier in the contest from another umpire or they are frustrated with the PU's strike zone etc.,

Finally they get a close call and they go after the "umpire that made the call", but in reality they are either frustrated with the game or their players.

Thanks
David

Rich Mon Jun 04, 2007 08:55am

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Originally Posted by bluezebra
"Of course, blowhard John Kruk blasted MLB for suspending indefinitely Lou Piniella, saying all he did was argue and that that was fine."

Let's see. Pinella was giving his imitation of George Blanda, kicking his cap instead of a football, all over Wrigley Field. Not to mention kicking dirt on the umpire. What, if anything, was Kruk watching?

Bob

Piniella got run for THROWING HIS HAT. How automatic is that at ANY level of baseball?

Junker Mon Jun 04, 2007 09:27am

I kind of got the feeling Pinella was looking for an excuse to get tossed. I think possibly he wanted to get some heat off his players and onto him. They all deserved to go over the weekend IMO. Maybe ESPN should have titled it "Are Coaches Out of Control"?

mattmets Mon Jun 04, 2007 09:31am

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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Piniella got run for THROWING HIS HAT. How automatic is that at ANY level of baseball?

Because it probably wasn't "Silent Lou" arguing...I'm guessing there were some not-so-family-friendly words exchanged and Lou needed to go.

mbyron Mon Jun 04, 2007 09:47am

I thought that his nickname was "Sweet Lou." Perhaps you're thinking of President Coolidge?

Rich Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:21am

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Originally Posted by mattmets
Because it probably wasn't "Silent Lou" arguing...I'm guessing there were some not-so-family-friendly words exchanged and Lou needed to go.

You missed my point. His throwing the hat made the rest of it irrelevant. Hat thrown = gone. The rest is just Lou being Lou.

mattmets Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:59am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
I thought that his nickname was "Sweet Lou." Perhaps you're thinking of President Coolidge?

No...I meant Silent Lou. I meant that he didn't go out and kick dirt and leave. Some not so nice words were exchanged, leading to his running himself.


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