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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 09:38am
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Appeal Question

Had a situation last night that I've never had before and not sure if I handled it correctly.

Batter hits a triple but misses first base. After the play is complete the offensive manager calls for time and walks out to me and asks me if the BR had missed first. At first I said nothing and finally after about 5 seconds I said, "Coach that's not the proper procedure to appeal a baserunning situation." turned around and assumed my place on the field.

They never did appeal and after the inning I called him over and explained to him the proper procedure.

Was I correct or should I have done something differently??
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 09:45am
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Wait until the end of the game to explain the proper procedure.
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 09:46am
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Cool

tibear,

Sounds OK to me.

What age group was this? I might have left the "instructional" part to another time, depending; like sometime not during the game.

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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 09:55am
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Maybe he coached FED during the 'umpire calls missed bags' period.

I'm with the others, wait until after the game. There's enough to do b/w innings that's more important. Periodically you'll have coaches wanting to discuss umpire judgement, philosophy, positioning, who you like in American Idol this season, and so on, just say, "Coach, this isn't the time, I'd be happy to give my views when the game's done."
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 10:33am
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If this was a Fed game... isn't that the proper way to ask for a dead ball appeal? Coach asks for time and is granted time, coach tells umpire he wants to appeal batter/runner missing base. Umpire either says yes he did, or no he didn't.
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 10:44am
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If this was a Fed game... isn't that the proper way to ask for a dead ball appeal? Coach asks for time and is granted time, coach tells umpire he wants to appeal batter/runner missing base. Umpire either says yes he did, or no he didn't.
You are correct.
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 10:46am
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If this was a Fed game... isn't that the proper way to ask for a dead ball appeal? Coach asks for time and is granted time, coach tells umpire he wants to appeal batter/runner missing base. Umpire either says yes he did, or no he didn't.
BINGO! We have a winner!

If this WAS a Fed game, the verbal appeal is enough. The out should be called.

Otherwise, it's not your job to instruct a coach on the proper way to appeal. If he really doesn't know how, and he really wants to know, then he'll look it up. I personally would not "instruct" him after the game. That just opens a whole can of worms!
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 10:47am
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This was a Bantam (14-15 year old) OBR game.
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 11:13am
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No, sounds like you did it right. As mentioned I probably wouldn't have told him during the game how to appeal a play. He can read the same book as we do and learn how to get it right. Than again, as I've heard time and time again...."I've played this game for 30 years, I know the rules". I love that one
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 12:42pm
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tibear, I'm confused. You said the offensive manager asked if his runner missed 1st base, did you mean the defensive manager?
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 12:49pm
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MANY managers are offensive
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 01:18pm
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tibear, I'm confused. You said the offensive manager asked if his runner missed 1st base, did you mean the defensive manager?
Sorry, it was the defensive manager.
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Old Tue May 22, 2007, 01:29pm
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If this was a Fed game... isn't that the proper way to ask for a dead ball appeal? Coach asks for time and is granted time, coach tells umpire he wants to appeal batter/runner missing base. Umpire either says yes he did, or no he didn't.
Yes, but I am fairly certain tibear is in Canada, where FED has yet to penetrate.
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