My 1ST Ejection

[budjones05]

Originally Posted by BigGuy

Next time you get a kid with and attitude and the coach does nothing about it, warn the coach about keeping his player under control then toss him if it doesn't stop. Our 13-14 league has a zero tolerance on profanity or kids throwing a temper tantrum. As a result, we also have very few disciplinary problems. Our league uses for the most part FED rules with some exceptions. You get ejected, it's a minimum one game suspension.

Establish your position right away with the coaches at the pre-game. Sometimes it's a pain but it will pay off.

My summer league, if a player gets tossed, so does the coach

[GarthB]

People, people, people.

What good does it do one to dump BG in the ignore closet if you all keep quoting him?

Thanks for your consideration of this matter.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

People, people, people.

What good does it do one to dump BG in the ignore closet if you all keep quoting him?

Thanks for your consideration of this matter.

And it's some of the worst freaking advice one can give.

Step back and remember, "I am the umpire." Take care of bidness when necessary, but making everyone think you're a hardass at the plate meeting is stupid.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

And it's some of the worst freaking advice one can give.

Step back and remember, "I am the umpire." Take care of bidness when necessary, but making everyone think you're a hardass at the plate meeting is stupid.

I agree, Rich. I also have a problem with his leagues "zero tolerance" policy on profanity. It's baseball, not a church social. There's no reason to toss a player for cursing unless it's directed at someone in an unsportsmanlike manner, or shouted loud enough for the women in the top row of the bleachers to hear. Shaving aged players swear out of frustration at themselves all the time.I just make a point to ask them to watch their language when I choose to hear what they said.


Tim.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

And it's some of the worst freaking advice one can give.

And, has ever been thus. That's why he's in the ignore closet.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by GarthB

People, people, people.

What good does it do one to dump BG in the ignore closet if you all keep quoting him?

Thanks for your consideration of this matter.

Sorry Garth, I forgot.

Originally Posted by GarthB

People, people, people.

What good does it do one to dump BG in the ignore closet if you all keep quoting him?

Thanks for your consideration of this matter.

What did I ever say to you to deserve this comment? Several of you guys are doing your best to read a whole lot more into my posts than is there and at the same time rip me for it. I'm not trying to be a harda$$ about anything. Some of these coaches I know very well. All it takes is one I haven't had, I don't make the statement, one of his kids drops the f-bomb, I toss, and then the coach says "what about a warning?" One of the reasons I do this is my second game last year, I toss a kid for yelling at his catcher "why don't you throw me the da** ball" loud enough to be heard by both benches. Then the coach comes out and starts with "isn't there a warning?" He shoots his mouth off one extra time so I toss him too.

All I've done is head off any potential situation on this one issue only. If this makes me a harda$$, or confrontational, or negative, so be it. BTW, it has served it's purpose - no ejections, and no foul language from any coach or spectator.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigGuy

Some of these coaches I know very well. All it takes is one I haven't had, I don't make the statement, one of his kids drops the f-bomb, I toss, and then the coach says "what about a warning?" One of the reasons I do this is my second game last year, I toss a kid for yelling at his catcher "why don't you throw me the da** ball" loud enough to be heard by both benches.

First, if there is this so-called "zero tolerance" policy concerning swearing in your league, everyone already knows the rule, and thus should not require any statement reminding them.

Second, while no warning is ever necessary to eject a player for swearing, don't you think the word "damn" is pretty damn tame? You said if one of the kids drops an f-bomb. Well, that's a far cry from "damn."

Originally Posted by BigGuy

Then the coach comes out and starts with "isn't there a warning?" He shoots his mouth off one extra time so I toss him too.

If I were the coach, I would have questioned throwing a kid out for saying (or even screaming) the word "damn."

The words "damn" or "hell" are not considered vulgarities, but the f-word most certainly is. Notice how damn and hell get past the very sensitive censor on this website, which catches the really bad words every time.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

First, if there is this so-called "zero tolerance" policy concerning swearing in your league, everyone already knows the rule, and thus should not require any statement reminding them.

Second, while no warning is ever necessary to eject a player for swearing, don't you think the word "damn" is pretty damn tame? You said if one of the kids drops an f-bomb. Well, that's a far cry from "damn."



If I were the coach, I would have questioned throwing a kid out for saying (or even screaming) the word "damn."

The words "damn" or "hell" are not considered vulgarities, but the f-word most certainly is. Notice how damn and hell get past the very sensitive censor on this website, which catches the really bad words every time.

Hmmmmmm....Will you show me the official list of vulgarities please?

[Gaff]

Originally Posted by rei

Hmmmmmm....Will you show me the official list of vulgarities please?

I think George Carlin covered the list years ago.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by rei

Hmmmmmm....Will you show me the official list of vulgarities please?

S***, P***. F***, C***, C*********, M***********, and T***

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

First, if there is this so-called "zero tolerance" policy concerning swearing in your league, everyone already knows the rule, and thus should not require any statement reminding them.

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I don't disagree with the intent of this post but
Every coach knows the rules dictate good sportsmanship from him and his players and yet I remind them of this at every plate meeting.
Every coach knows by rule his players must be equipped properly and yet I ask at every plate meeting if they are indeed equipped properly.

If a league has a zero tolerance policy on language I don't think it is at all out of line to remind the coach of this policy at the plate meeting.
It's consistent with what the plate meeting is used for.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

I don't disagree with the intent of this post but
Every coach knows the rules dictate good sportsmanship from him and his players and yet I remind them of this at every plate meeting.
Every coach knows by rule his players must be equipped properly and yet I ask at every plate meeting if they are indeed equipped properly.

If a league has a zero tolerance policy on language I don't think it is at all out of line to remind the coach of this policy at the plate meeting.
It's consistent with what the plate meeting is used for.

I think a 'no statement' on profanity at the plate meeting would be much more fair and true to the intent of the rules.

Personally I think your league dropped the ball on this one.

[ozzy6900]

Gentlemen, after reading all of these posts I did a search on all of the posts still in the database on this site that pertain to the Plate Meeting. I see that there is such a wide array of reasons as to why things need to be stated at the Plate Meeting.

I have therefore concluded that each game has its Plate Meeting at least 1 hour before game time. First there will be the blessing of the baseballs with incantations to the god Wokehmawanna. Then the umpires will call upon the sacred hailings of the prophet Ginga who really wrote the original rules interpretations that were stolen by Jaska & Roder after they defeated the under-lord Kalkaka, the devil that stole the soul of Ty Cobb.

The umpires will then unveil the proper rule book for that level of play and chant, in 2 part harmony, each and every rule in said book. This will be followed by discussions with the managers (wearing Viking headdress) as to how each rule will be enforced that day. Also, a copy of the "local rules" of the league needs to be explained in detail so that there is no question when a batter is "called out for throwing his bat" or a player is ejected for saying "Damn".

Umpires must also explain how the strike zone will be called for that game and what will be allowed in as far as balks or warnings - no, let's just give warnings because balks hurt the feelings of the players! When the Plate Meeting is concluded, there should be no arguments, ejections or questions because everything has been explained to everyone. Then there will be a Kool-aid toast to the god Melhalla to bring wisdom and knowledge to all who participated in the church service known as the Plate Meeting!

There, that should satisfy all of the imbeciles that need to have these outlandish Plate Meetings!

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by LMan

I think a 'no statement' on profanity at the plate meeting would be much more fair and true to the intent of the rules..

I'm glad to see that you think about the rules and their intent.
This forum is a great place to share opinions on the game and it's rules.

Originally Posted by LMan

Personally I think your league dropped the ball on this one.

Actually I don't have a league and have never posted anything referring to my non existent league. Usually sarcasm, like comedy needs some thread of truth to be effective. (Just a hint for future attempts to slam me)
But if it makes you happy I'm sure some league some where at some time has dropped the ball, like maybe the one you work for.