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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 02:46pm
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In all fairness to the rest of the MLB crews out there that I have observed, I regularly see the PU signal "Time Play" when the situation comes up. I have never heard of any crews getting this basic concept wrong (until now.)
I don't always tap my wrist with one out. Two outs, and runners in scoring position I will, but rarely on one out.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 02:55pm
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If the aforementioned happened in the LLWS or some other youth event, most would say "well you get what you paid for" or "that's why they call them LL umpires" or something along those lines.
Sorry to quote you as I don't normally like to do that, but the umpires got off extremely easy on this one. There should have been a whole gang of managers ready to tear their heads off.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 02:52pm
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This is a very bizarre occurance. Ed Montegue, an MLB umpire, does not know the time play. Why an umpire at that level would not know such an elementary rule is beyond me.

There is a second rule that Ed Montegue is unaware of. You cannot change a judgement call after another pitch is made. To wait more than 2 innings to change a call is unacceptable.

I know I shouldn't be dissing a fellow official, but this is just not acceptable.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 03:38pm
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This is a very bizarre occurance. Ed Montegue, an MLB umpire, does not know the time play. Why an umpire at that level would not know such an elementary rule is beyond me.

There is a second rule that Ed Montegue is unaware of. You cannot change a judgement call after another pitch is made. To wait more than 2 innings to change a call is unacceptable.
Make up your mind. Was it a rule application, or a judgment call?
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 04:33pm
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Make up your mind. Was it a rule application, or a judgment call?
Don't feed the CDump.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 09:04pm
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GarthB,Mcrowder

My bad, it was a rules interpretation. Same deal though, they should nip it in the bud rather than waiting 3 innings to change it and add a run to the score.

Mcrowder, I would prefer if you didn't insult me.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 11:09pm
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From a rulebook

I find it hard to believe that the run was wiped off the board.
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A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

Example: Not a force out. One out. Runner on first and third. Batter flies out. Two out. Runner on third tags up and scores. Runner on first tries to retouch before throw from fielder reaches first baseman, but does not get back in time and is out. Three outs. If, in umpire’s judgment, the runner from third touched home before the ball was held at first base, the run counts.
Something must have been said that we have all missed.
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