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[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

You don't get it that playing hard and to win, sometimes means people might get hurt.

also Throwing a ball in order to get an out is not a crime. You would have to PROVE the intent of the catcher to hit the runner, and providing a quality throw to First base that hits a runner would throw a big monkey wrench in the plans.

There is a difference between "sometimes people might get hurt" and you coaching kids to try to injure other kids. A coach in Texas is in jail right now for child abuse for coaching one kid to injure another kid. Yes - his situation was far more egregious than what you proscribe, but your attitude that it's OK to coach your players to intentionally hurt other players is quite simply appalling - you should not be allowed to coach (or even be around) kids. The fact that your child abuse may be difficult to prove in court does not make it less of a crime. I know you will never be ... but you SHOULD be ashamed.

[woolnojg]

3apple -
Rich knows what comes next when you try that cheap crap in big boy ball.Next time that catcher comes to bat.
Bzzzzzzzzzz. Thunk!
And coach, don't even think about going behind my cather during warm-ups.

[3appleshigh]

No BS, man, baseball has ways to take care of themselves. And in adult ball, if a guy runs obviously out of the lane to gain an advantage, HE WILL GET PLUNKED.

Also, note, I have said they need to be taught that the Loob over into the field (a last resort) is not the last resort that should be taught. They need to be taught first to find a lane, the Firstbaseman need to be taught to help the catcher early with an INSIDE or OUTSIDE call, but the last resort isn't a trick shot, that could end up with the runner at second. The last resort is to make a good solid throw to where you would normally find the firstbaseman, and THAT is through the runners back.

Until it becomes a call for simply causing a bad throw, This is the BEST PLAY for the defense to make, when nothing else is easily available.

I love how DG has resorted to namecalling, the last hope for the uneducated.

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

No BS, man, baseball has ways to take care of themselves. And in adult ball, if a guy runs obviously out of the lane to gain an advantage, HE WILL GET PLUNKED.

Also, note, I have said they need to be taught that the Loob over into the field (a last resort) is not the last resort that should be taught. They need to be taught first to find a lane, the Firstbaseman need to be taught to help the catcher early with an INSIDE or OUTSIDE call, but the last resort isn't a trick shot, that could end up with the runner at second. The last resort is to make a good solid throw to where you would normally find the firstbaseman, and THAT is through the runners back.

Until it becomes a call for simply causing a bad throw, This is the BEST PLAY for the defense to make, when nothing else is easily available.

I love how DG has resorted to namecalling, the last hope for the uneducated.

There is never a last resort that calls for throwing at the runners back.
If F3 is on the inside and marginally stretched his glove is 4' to the inside. If BR has his right foot on the foul line so his entire body is inside the line he's taking at most 30". F2 still has an 18" window to throw to without aiming at the back. That's before he makes a quick slidestep to the inside and creates a great angle. The reality is if BR is that far inside, F3 would simply step to the outside and now F2 has about a 4' window to throw at without coming close to BR. There are times (few as they are) that BR obstructs, but there is never an appropriate time for F2 to aim at BR back.

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

This is the BEST PLAY for the defense to make, when nothing else is easily available.

OK guys, when the going gets tough, lets hurt em.

[3appleshigh]

If there was never a time that this would happen, There would not be a rule prohibiting the runner from doing what he is doing.

[3appleshigh]

"The last resort is to make a good solid throw to where you would normally find the firstbaseman, and THAT is through the runners back. "

Where is this AIMING AT THE RUNNERS BACK.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

"The last resort is to make a good solid throw to where you would normally find the firstbaseman, and THAT is through the runners back. "

Where is this AIMING AT THE RUNNERS BACK.

Interesting point of view for a player. Reprehensible for an umpire.

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

If there was never a time that this would happen, There would not be a rule prohibiting the runner from doing what he is doing.

I didn't say there was never obstruction.
I said there was never a reason to throw AT a runners back.
There's a difference between a ball hitting a runner and a fielder throwing at the runner.
Just like there's a difference between incidental contact and malicious contact.

If you feel compelled to throw balls at people then go play kickball or dodgeball

[3appleshigh]

Once again, And I'll Type Slow for you

If the catcher simply cannot, or more likely doesn't have the TIME, to step out and around the runner, instead of lobing the ball into the out field, The CATCHER SHOULD THROW A NORMAL THROW to the FIRSTBASEMAN, in Some cases this will end up being THROUGH the base runner.

He should not Throw At the Runner, but AT FIRSTBASE. The runner just happens to be in the way because he is breaking the rules.

[DG]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

I love how DG has resorted to namecalling, the last hope for the uneducated.

One applesauce shouldn't call another rotten unless one knows what one is talking about. But then again if you are apple I am orange because I disagree with you on coaching young players to strike their competitors with a thrown baseball on purpose. It's a good thing you are not a coach because you are dangerous.

JERK.

[3appleshigh]

I'm rubber and you're glue

Since you wish to behave like a 5 yr old, I'll respond as such.

[NFump]

I know they're around here someplace. Where are they?

NOW....