ump interference

[Old Time Ump]

Mr. Steve and Mr. Garth,

Please ....Until about 1965 American League umpires positioned themselves on the edge of the outfield grass a little to the right of 2nd with a runner on first. On an attempted steal you moved in toward the 2 bag shaded toward 1st but still on the outside of the base line. It was thought to be a better position than the National Laeague 'mechanic' which positioned on the inside. You can check this all out easily. Umont who was an excellent umpire in the Amer. for about 20 years was a former pro football tackle. It was easy enough to stumble as approaching the play..and that's what happened.

Mr. Garth, I said I had only seen it twice....the other one involved me in the Winter League in the islands when I got involved in a run down between 3rd and Home.

And that's why I asked if you all survived similar situations..LOL

Good Day

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Old Time Ump

Mr. Steve and Mr. Garth,

Who'd a thunk you'd ever see those names linked?

Please ....Until about 1965 American League umpires positioned themselves on the edge of the outfield grass a little to the right of 2nd with a runner on first. On an attempted steal you moved in toward the 2 bag shaded toward 1st but still on the outside of the base line. It was thought to be a better position than the National Laeague 'mechanic' which positioned on the inside.

Reading is fundamental. I never challenged you on the mechanic. I am aware of the history of mechanics, thanks anyway.

Umont who was an excellent umpire in the Amer. for about 20 years was a former pro football tackle.

yada yada yada...yes, that is all well known and that he and Rommell became the first umpires to wear glasses in 1956.

It was easy enough to stumble as approaching the play..and that's what happened.

Even that is not the point. What I have sent requests for is the ruling made and the basis for the ruling. I doubt 7.06 would be the basis for umpire interference or even your claim of "fairness".

Mr. Garth, I said I had only seen it twice....the other one involved me in the Winter League in the islands when I got involved in a run down between 3rd and Home.

No, that's not what you said. You said: "on the two occasions when this happened," clearly implying that this has happened twice. And you referred to a ruling in both cases based on 7.06 being approved by THE League, (singular) clearly implying both cases occurred in the same league.

And that's why I asked if you all survived similar situations..LOL

And no one has an idea of what you are implying here, but that's okay, could be an age issue.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GarthB

And no one has an idea of what you are implying here, but that's okay, could be an age issue.

Say hello to JThomas, a troll from both the McGriff basketball and baseball boards. Ask ol' J to recite something out of a rule book; unfortunately the poor old goof doesn't own one.

He is kinda mildly amusing though.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Old Time Ump

Until about 1965 American League umpires positioned themselves on the edge of the outfield grass a little to the right of 2nd with a runner on first. On an attempted steal you moved in toward the 2 bag shaded toward 1st but still on the outside of the base line. It was thought to be a better position than the National Laeague 'mechanic' which positioned on the inside. You can check this all out easily. Umont who was an excellent umpire in the Amer. for about 20 years was a former pro football tackle. It was easy enough to stumble as approaching the play..and that's what happened.

This is what I remember the mechanic to be from all the old video footage I've seen (I was watching baseball back then, but too young to remember umpire mechanics). What you originally said was that Umont tripped and fell on the runner, which led me to wonder why he was anywhere near the runner's base line to start with. Now that I read that he stumbled as approaching the play I can see how this could possibly happen.