Run Score?

[Bainer]

I'm not sure that this was a fourth out question.
I had a very similar play on the weekend and the plate ump made a knee-jerk call- and got it wrong- even though we all tried to correct him.

Our problem, and the one I see in this question is- with two outs, we've got a timing play, and the run counts before the out- but our plate ump (and maybe this one too) was unsure as to whether the 3rd out- the throw to get the runner who failed to tag up- was a force or not.

Ours was a throw back to 1st behind a runner on the move, with r3 tagging up and scoring just before the throw beat the runner back to first.


Bainer.