Recent Game - 1st Ejection of the year

[Durham]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I'm still trying to get past "rum dum high school or adult ball."

Steve,

High school and adult ball ejections happen ever day without being reported, that was my point and you are correct I should have stated it in a better way.

[shooter17]

Durham is just asking for advice on how different umpires handle a situation. If I was told something that I might not fully understand the reasoning, I would ask questions. Not so much to question your responses but to understand why you would do something. If I have a different way of handling situations and think its a good way to handle it then I will defend my reasoning. Everybody is different umpire. If umpires come on here to try to learn I would want as much information as possible. If guys want to write where the umpiring career has taken them that is more information to render which way will be the best to handle the situation. For example if one guy says just ignore them and he's experience is little league. While the other guy says issue as many warnings as possible then eject and has pro ball experience. Who has the most experience and has the most up to date training for these types of situations. As an umpire I would want to have options for handling situations. Just look at how many ways everybody handles just this situation. I think that is what these forums or all about. Teaching guys new things or adding to your "toolbox". Not to bash each other. Keep posting it's great to see everybody sharing info.

[jumpmaster]

durham - I think you issued too many warnings, so do many of the others here. Ultimately, you are answerable to your coordinator and to the coaches and our opinions amount to a hill of beans.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Durham

I had a Juco game yesterday and my first ejection of the year. Here is how it went.

In the top of the 2nd, the third out was made on a non-routine play at first base where the first baseman possibly had his foot off the base. My partner called the runner out and the entire dugout erupted. I warned the dugout and told them that they could not do that. At this point, assistant coach X attempted to explain to me that his players did nothing wrong. I warned him again and told him that it was not his job, nor his players’ job to argue with the umpires; it is his head coach’s job. Then assistant coach Y attempted to argue the point with me by stating, “The game is not about you!” I then warned him by replying, “And it is not about you or your players arguing with me either.”.

If you want an honest opinion, here it is. I've removed the majority of your first post because had you ejected in the second inning most likely none of the other stuff would have happened. This would be the reasoning behind ejecting early. It keeps the game under your control and stops bad situations from escalating into terrible situations.

This is how I would have handled it. As soon as the bench erupted I would have issued a bench warning just like you did. When the first assistant coach became even a little bit confrontational I would have cut him off immediately. As soon as the second assistant coach said anything other than "good job" to me I would have dumped him. At the JUCO level all coaches know what the proper decorum is for discussing calls with the umpires. They chose to breech that protocol and should have been dumped almost immediately. The first one, yea, maybe you did the right thing by keeping him in the game. But, the second one? No way.


Tim.

[Durham]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

If you want an honest opinion, here it is. I've removed the majority of your first post because had you ejected in the second inning most likely none of the other stuff would have happened.

This is how I would have handled it. As soon as the bench erupted I would have issued a bench warning just like you did. When the first assistant coach became even a little bit confrontational I would have cut him off immediately. As soon as the second assistant coach said anything other than "good job" to me I would have dumped him. At the JUCO level all coaches know what the proper decorum is for discussing calls with the umpires. They chose to breech that protocol and should have been dumped almost immediately. The first one, yea, maybe you did the right thing by keeping him in the game. But, the second one? No way.


Tim.

You are probably right, but the second he popped off I fired right back and he shut up so I turned around and went on with life. My partner and I talked about that exact same thing after the game over a burger and a pop and we decided that I could have gone either way with it. If I would have dumped him, then you are right, things probably would have been smooth sailing, but you never know with some of these guys.