taped jewelry

[bbman]

Can players wear jewelry if it's completely taped and not visible?
ie watch, bracelets.

[IK13]

HS and NCAA women - by the book - no.
The ref however cannot legally ask for the tape to be taken off to inspect.
As far as I’m concerned - for HS it’s enough for the coach to confirm that the players are compliant with the jewelry rule. NCAA - I don’t ask.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by IK13

HS and NCAA women - by the book - no.
The ref however cannot legally ask for the tape to be taken off to inspect.
As far as I’m concerned - for HS it’s enough for the coach to confirm that the players are compliant with the jewelry rule. NCAA - I don’t ask.

Studs and posts (and in NCAAW, snug cuffs) can be worn above the chin. No hoops, dangles, bars and nothing below the chin. No jewelry can be taped over and the tape (and jewelry below the chin) should be removed.

Note that medical alert medallions and religious medals are not jewelry and have separate rules.

[IK13]

Originally Posted by [I

[/I]bob jenkins;1052953]
Studs and posts (and in NCAAW, snug cuffs) can be worn above the chin. No hoops, dangles, bars and nothing below the chin. No jewelry can be taped over and the tape (and jewelry below the chin) should be removed.

Note that medical alert medallions and religious medals are not jewelry and have separate rules.

Loops are allowed in NCAA, provided they are tight, which by itself is a lose (pun intended) definition, so the clarification was it should touch skin all around. “Bars”? Isn’t that what “studs” and “posts” are?
Then in the last bulletin Ryan MacDowell asked that we take it easy and only interfere if something is in our face.

How do you go about enforcing the “should be removed” part on suspected taped over jewelry?

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by IK13

Loops are allowed in NCAA, provided they are tight, which by itself is a lose (pun intended) definition, so the clarification was it should touch skin all around. “Bars”? Isn’t that what “studs” and “posts” are?
Then in the last bulletin Ryan MacDowell asked that we take it easy and only interfere if something is in our face.

How do you go about enforcing the “should be removed” part on suspected taped over jewelry?

"Just a reminder, if you're taping over something illegal, that's not allowed." Then leave it at that, and if you see it later, we're pulling out a card. And not a delay.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by IK13

Loops are allowed in NCAA, provided they are tight, which by itself is a lose (pun intended) definition, so the clarification was it should touch skin all around. “Bars”? Isn’t that what “studs” and “posts” are?
Then in the last bulletin Ryan MacDowell asked that we take it easy and only interfere if something is in our face.

How do you go about enforcing the “should be removed” part on suspected taped over jewelry?

Bars (Illegal): https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-Ea.../dp/B0CHRB3M6D

Cuffs (what you refer to as loos, I think) (Top 2 LEGAL; bottom ILLEGAL because of the chain): https://www.google.com/imgres?q=cuff...00&hcb=2&itg=1

[IK13]

Originally Posted by FMadera

"Just a reminder, if you're taping over something illegal, that's not allowed." Then leave it at that, and if you see it later, we're pulling out a card. And not a delay.

So we will actually let them play with the taped over jewelry.

That’s my point - to enforce the rule, one has to actually see the jewelry underneath it. Which can only happen if the player happens to take off the tape in front of the ref (and the ref notices).
Rules without ways of enforcement are useless imo.

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by IK13

So we will actually let them play with the taped over jewelry.

That’s my point - to enforce the rule, one has to actually see the jewelry underneath it. Which can only happen if the player happens to take off the tape in front of the ref (and the ref notices).
Rules without ways of enforcement are useless imo.

Not if we know about it. We can't merely just punish for the suspicion. It is what it is sometimes.

[bob jenkins]

In NCAAW Basketball, we are supposed to have them take the tape off (the only tape that's allowed is to tape back the earlobe when someone has a large empty hole where a gauge earring would normally be worn).

In VB -- I just ask what is being worn under the tape. Yes, someone could lie. So far, they've just taken the tape off and removed the jewelry.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by IK13

The ref however cannot legally ask for the tape to be taken off to inspect. .

"Legally"? Why not? NCAA specifies that tape can't be worn.

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

"Legally"? Why not? NCAA specifies that tape can't be worn.

It can't be worn to cover something illegal. Certainly tape can be worn, and is all the time. Check wrists, fingers, etc...

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by FMadera

It can't be worn to cover something illegal. Certainly tape can be worn, and is all the time. Check wrists, fingers, etc...

Of course. I hope it was clear that this is what I meant. But since tape is never used to provide support to an ear, an eyebrow, or a nostril, I don't think it's too unreasonable to ask a player to show me what it's covering.

My post was intended to dispute the idea that officials aren't allowed ("legally") to ask.

[IK13]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Of course. I hope it was clear that this is what I meant. But since tape is never used to provide support to an ear, an eyebrow, or a nostril, I don't think it's too unreasonable to ask a player to show me what it's covering.

My post was intended to dispute the idea that officials aren't allowed ("legally") to ask.

You can ask what’s under the tape. They might or might not be honest about it. Or might refuse to answer at all.

You cannot insist that they take the tape off so you can check out for yourself.

[bob jenkins]

I think you can use 9.2.2 (emphasis added) and the rule "taping over jewelry is not permitted" to ask to see what's under the tape (or to use any of the other methods mentioned here).

19.2.2 Scope of Authority
The first referee directs the match from his or her arrival at the court until the
end of the match� This includes:
19�2�2�1 Having authority over all team members;
19�2�2�2 Having final authority over all decisions including those not specifically
addressed in the rules;
19�2�2�3 Having authority over other officials and overruling other officials if
certain they made an incorrect decision; and
19�2�2�4 Replacing an official who is not performing functions properly�

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think you can use 9.2.2 (emphasis added) and the rule "taping over jewelry is not permitted" to ask to see what's under the tape (or to use any of the other methods mentioned here).

19.2.2 Scope of Authority
The first referee directs the match from his or her arrival at the court until the
end of the match� This includes:
19�2�2�1 Having authority over all team members;
19�2�2�2 Having final authority over all decisions including those not specifically
addressed in the rules;
19�2�2�3 Having authority over other officials and overruling other officials if
certain they made an incorrect decision; and
19�2�2�4 Replacing an official who is not performing functions properly�

Sure, you *can.* And then feel free to be uninvited from your assignor's cadre once coaches complain about it...