3-pointer wrong basket

[daver318]

Player on Team A shoots what he thinks is a 3-point attempt, but it is at the wrong basket and goes in. I know Team B gets the points, but do they get 2 points or 3?

[Jurassic Referee]

Two points. It's not a try.

[mplagrow]

No 3's at the wrong hoop. Just two.

[tjones1]

What if it was tipped by the defense?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by tjones1

What if it was tipped by the defense?

Would that make it a try?

[tjones1]

Suppose it could be, if you considered it a tap.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Would that make it a try?

Yeah - actually it would. See NF 4-41-5 and 4-41-6. I didn't realize it could happen that way until I carefully read those two rules.

[Texas Aggie]

It doesn't matter if its a try, tap, or thrown ball. In order to receive 3 points per (NF) 5.2.1, it must be "behind the team's own" 3 point line. I guess one could argue that if a player were at the other end of the court, he is technically "behind" the team's 3 point line, but reading the rest of the rule same makes it clear that its only 2 points: "A ball that touches ... any other goal... counts 2 points."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

It doesn't matter if its a try, tap, or thrown ball. In order to receive 3 points per (NF) 5.2.1, it must be "behind the team's own" 3 point line. I guess one could argue that if a player were at the other end of the court, he is technically "behind" the team's 3 point line, but reading the rest of the rule same makes it clear that its only 2 points: "A ball that touches ... any other goal... counts 2 points."

OK - try this scenario:

A1 is outside team B's 3 point line and so is B1. A1 mistakenly shoots towards B's basket and B1 taps the ball in flight (remember, B1 is also outside B's 3 point line). According to 4-40-6, "A tap shall be considered the same as a try for field goal..." and 5-2-1 says "A successful try tap or thrown ball from the field by a player located behind the team's own 19-foot, 9-inch arc counts three points." To me, that means that if B1 is inside his own 3 point line when he taps the ball, it's a three.

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by tjones1

What if it was tipped by the defense?

No Goal Tending or BI either ... not a try!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Ref Daddy

No Goal Tending or BI either ... not a try!

Not true. You could have BI.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

A1 is outside team B's 3 point line and so is B1. A1 mistakenly shoots towards B's basket and B1 taps the ball in flight (remember, B1 is also outside B's 3 point line). According to 4-40-6, "A tap shall be considered the same as a try for field goal..."

But the question was not about a tap. A tap is intentionally directing the ball toward the basket. This is a case where a confused player shot at the wrong goal and another confused player tried to block it, but only got one finger on it. That's not a tap in my game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

But the question was not about a tap. A tap is intentionally directing the ball toward the basket. This is a case where a confused player shot at the wrong goal and another confused player tried to block it, but only got one finger on it. That's not a tap in my game.

That's not a tap in any game.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's not a tap in any game.

What if on it's upwards flight, B1 taps it toward his own basket? Ya, I know this is a bazillion to one chance, and if it ever happens, I hope you get it on tape.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

What if on it's upwards flight, B1 taps it toward his own basket? Ya, I know this is a bazillion to one chance, and if it ever happens, I hope you get it on tape.

If you think that B1 was deliberately trying to direct the ball into his basket, and B1 was also outside the arc when he tapped the ball, you could call it a 3. If B1 has his back to the basket though, he shouldn't ever get that call. Iow, a bazillion to one is just about right.