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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 09:07am
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Thanks F-man

That's why I do whistle the end of TO's, at least in HS matches (I don't in JH).

But I can understand why people don't. It's pretty silly to do isn't it? And under the rules when does a time out end, if both teams are on the court before the :60 are up?

By using the whistle are you not saying that the teams are ready to serve? So what if you have a sub coming in legally, or a Libero replacement after the TO? Do I do my business, then blow the whistle so everyone at the concession stand sees we are readys to play, since everyone in the gym sees it? And if we are using multiple courts in the same facility, doesn't that just add an unecessary whistle to a situation with too many whistles already?

Yes, the guy who is up will see all this, and not call for serve until he sees everything is ready. So I ams asking is the something the Rules committee ought to look at changing, or is there some rationale that mekes more sense for doing this other than "The Manual says you do it."
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 09:15am
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[QUOTE=jkumpire]That's why I do whistle the end of TO's, at least in HS matches (I don't in JH).

But I can understand why people don't. It's pretty silly to do isn't it?[quote]I don't think so. It's our way of communicating that BOTH teams are ready to play. Often you'll have players chatting on the court, and instead of verbally saying "we're ready to play," the whistle does that. Also, since libero replacements may not legally take place until the timeout is over, it's a great way to say "and now, you can make replacements."

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And under the rules when does a time out end, if both teams are on the court before the :60 are up?
When the whistle blows, if done correctly.

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By using the whistle are you not saying that the teams are ready to serve?
No, you are saying the timeout is over. When the U gives the court back to the R (remember, when the U whistles to signal a timeout, the U has control of the court until he/she gives it back to the R), THEN he/she is saying "we are ready for a serve." Until then, the U has control of the court, so the R shouldn't be blowing the whistle. This, of course, is assuming you actually have a U who gives the court back to the R...

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So what if you have a sub coming in legally, or a Libero replacement after the TO?
Administer the sub or let the replacement take place, THEN give the court back.

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Do I do my business, then blow the whistle so everyone at the concession stand sees we are readys to play, since everyone in the gym sees it? And if we are using multiple courts in the same facility, doesn't that just add an unecessary whistle to a situation with too many whistles already?
If that's your rationale, why bother blowing your whistle when the ball is down either? I mean, everyone sees that too, right?
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 10:11am
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As Felix said, it's part of the protocol when the U/R2 gives the court back to the R1. Not many folks here do it, but I always blow the whistle to signal the end of the time out.

Go watch a college match & you'll see it's part of the R2's protocol as well, and they always do it.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 10:47am
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Thanks, guys....I learned something new today.

I have always blown the whistle if the table did not sound a warning buzzer at :15, but never to signal the end of the timeout.

Question - if one or both teams use the full 60 seconds of the timeout, does the buzzer signal the end of the timeout, or would U2 still blow the whistle?

I'm interested in NFHS interps, as that is the dominant ruleset I'm using right now.
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Thanks, guys....I learned something new today.

I have always blown the whistle if the table did not sound a warning buzzer at :15, but never to signal the end of the timeout.

Question - if one or both teams use the full 60 seconds of the timeout, does the buzzer signal the end of the timeout, or would U2 still blow the whistle?

I'm interested in NFHS interps, as that is the dominant ruleset I'm using right now.
Umpire blows the whistle to end a timeout if both teams are ready to play prior to 60 seconds.

If the buzzer goes off, no need to blow the whistle.
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