Opinions requested

[prab]

This is a very interesting thread. If I read the OP correctly, BOTH umpires agree that the batter DID NOT SWING at the pitch and that therefore the call of a swinging strike was wrong. Then BOTH AGREE that nothing should be done to correct the error. Everyone who has posted so far seems to agree that no change should be made. Isn't there something fundamentally wrong here?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by prab

This is a very interesting thread. If I read the OP correctly, BOTH umpires agree that the batter DID NOT SWING at the pitch and that therefore the call of a swinging strike was wrong. Then BOTH AGREE that nothing should be done to correct the error. Everyone who has posted so far seems to agree that no change should be made. Isn't there something fundamentally wrong here?

as said by TB:
if I am PU, I have to eat that call. Same as the call I have to eat if I ring up the batter on strikes with a pitch across the chin or shins.

[Welpe]

Break out the Sriracha, the PU has a call to eat.

[Andy]

Thanks for all of the responses.

To provide some further information, this was a very experienced umpire that I was with who has worked some very high level ball. I have a great deal of respect for this umpire.

After the conversation with coach, when partner approached me, my first thought was "Why are you coming to me?" Knowing that PU knew better, I was very curious to see what PU had to say.

Bottom line...PU blew the call and knew it. Life and ball game goes on.

[DRJ1960]

Would any of you tell the coach that you knew you got it wrong but that there is no way to "un-ring that bell"?

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

Would any of you tell the coach that you knew you got it wrong but that there is no way to "un-ring that bell"?

Because it is the right thing to do, and the coach will appreciate the honesty.
Just ask Jim Joyce.




Umpiring is the only profession on the planet, where 100% absolute total perfection is the bare minimum requirement. Brain surgeons and airline pilots are given more margin for error. Everyone deserves a break, just don't make a habit of very bad calls.

[Scooby]

I I am the PU I do not go to the BU and ask. I made a call and I am going to stick by it.

If I am the BU and the PU asks, I tell hem what I saw and leave the rest up to him (may inject that he should not have asked).