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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 02:38pm
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Ding, ding, ding, IMO. The cited rule doesn't stipulate deflected by or from another player!!
True, but I don't see intent (implied or actual) in the OP.
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 03:17pm
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True, but I don't see intent (implied or actual) in the OP.
In my view, the reason intent remains in the deflected ball rule is to account for the unpredictable nature of where a deflected ball will go.

That does not apply here.

Where does it state that if the fielder does not field the ball perfectly that the protection disappears? The only impact on the runner is it took the fielder a bit longer than it otherwise would have to glove the ball securely. The fielder was there in one spot all along. The runner merely chose to not alter her path.

It seems to me you either apply the fielding a batted ball rule or if you choose to apply the deflected ball rule, the fact that the runner made no attempt to avoid the fielder is enough to rule intent.
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 03:24pm
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The deflected ball rule kind of implies that it's NOT interference unless the runner does something intentional to interfere. I think we can throw that one out here.

The issue is that the rules protect a fielder while she's fielding a ball. The rules protect a fielder while she's throwing a ball. And the rules prevent a runner from interfering with the actual throw.

The fielder in the OP is doing none of these things.

You ask, "Where does it state that if the fielder does not field the ball perfectly that the protection disappears?" It does not state that. But the rules do not protect a fielder who has already fielded a ball... unless they are throwing that ball.

The runner in the OP has not broken any of the 4 parts of the interference rule.
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 05:09pm
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...But the rules do not protect a fielder who has already fielded a ball... unless they are throwing that ball...
Runners on 2nd and 3rd. Infield ground ball fielded by F6, who is standing there checking R1 to hold her up from scoring and has not started any throwing motion anywhere. R2 runs into her, distracting / disrupting her enough that R1 scores, R2 is safe on 3rd, and BR is safe on 1st.

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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 06:53pm
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Has anyone actually read 8.7.Q?
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 07:44pm
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Has anyone actually read 8.7.Q?
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 07:50pm
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Crash. Plan and simple. No intent needed. A runner cannot run into a fielder in possession of the ball. In this scenario this is only an out.
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Old Wed May 06, 2015, 11:39pm
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Has anyone actually read 8.7.Q?
The fielder has the ball, and the runner remains upright and runs into her, this is an out for interference. All applicable rules apply to other runners as well.
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Old Thu May 07, 2015, 08:18am
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Has anyone actually read 8.7.Q?
I mentioned that rule above, and why I did not think it applied here. If you think it does, please discuss.
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