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I never understood the rationale behind this, however. Getting your brand out there is fundamental to promotion. Why would the ASA itself be opposed to having the competition have to visibly use ASA umpires? It seems to me it would indicate the opponent organization is lacking to the point they have to look to the ASA to provide officials. Why is this bad for ASA?
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Though lawsuits should be the last resort, if you are working ABC you should wear ABC's uniform. If XYZ did not want their brand associated with a competitor, they have every right to demand their trademarked logo is not included in any events other than those in which they choose to do so. I didn't have a problem telling umpires working a PONY tournament to find another hat, shirt or ball bag that did not have ASA on it. I would not do it publicly or at the event I was observing, but afterwards at a local meeting or if I saw them. It is a reasonable demand of any organization that values their brand.
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Ever have a discussion with a coach who insisted the ASA rule was this or that because the umpire had an ASA on his hat or shirt when in fact it was another organization, but YOU are the one who is wrong? Could go on all night, but I don't think you would bother reading ![]()
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During ground rules, this coach started discussing rules about line-ups and subs, etc. that were PONY or local rule specific. My partner (PU) was becoming frustrated because no matter how many times he noted that wasn't an ASA rule, she just wouldn't shut up and kept rambling. Before he (and the other coach) blew a gasket, I told her, "Ma'am, that may be what your league or other rules allow, this is straight-out-of-the-book ASA rules today." Then she started on me with, "but in PONY..." and I stepped up, held up the ASA logo on my shirt and said, "ASA, not PONY" hoping the visual would get the point across. The opposing coach was pissed, but at the same time laughing wondering what type of coach cannot figure this out. To my surprise, she stated that my shirt was the same shirt her league umpires wear! That did not make me a happy camper, but not so much they were wearing the uniform, but the information and rules being bantered about were not representative of the ASA game and all that can do is add to the confusion which the rest of us must deal with down the road. And I doubt that confusion is just one way. Probably plenty of other umpires working non-ASA get tired of hearing what ASA does instead of that of the rule set under which the game in front of them is being played. Quote:
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But do you know what the real problem is? Laziness and apathy. People expect others to tolerate their laziness and others just don't care. Personally, I'm a believer that if you choose to do something, it is your responsibility to find a way to learn and understand whatever it is, not everyone else's responsibility to put up with you when you do not. If you want to be a coach, be a coach and do it right. Otherwise, sit down. If you want to be an umpire, do it right. Otherwise, take up another pastime. The people in this country seem to have adopted a point of satisfaction and success with a manta of, "well, it's good enough". This is evident in almost everything we do, not only on the field, but in many parts of our lives.
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In reality, the STRONG majority of umpires in the US were either trained by ASA, or trained by someone who was trained by ASA. That is just the way it is. However, if it is not an ASA sanctioned event, ASA gear needs to stay in the car or at home.
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