Retired runner proceeds straight to base -- do you have interference? (ASA)

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Sounds like a lot of people are really saying, "As long as the runner does 'what she is supposed to,' there isn't interference."

Should we apply this to R1 who runs in a straight line directly into F4 fielding a batted ball? Her "act" is running. Colliding with F4 isn't an "act" it is just a consequence of her "non-act" of running, according to the logic we hear.

So if F6 dives for a ball that just gets by her, is she immediately committing obstruction on R2 (assuming she was actually hindered) because she is no longer in the "act" of fielding a batted ball?

Seems to be a lot of contradiction and applying the "what's she supposed to do " philosophy, that so many argue against.

Rich....please moderate this post......this is not a whose **** is longest just so you know. But, I thought since you have known me since about 1997, you can add some credibility to what I am fixin to say.

EsqUmp is still beating his dead horse.......Jeez...You have been proven wrong so many times.....why do you even still argue it....? You should go to your other NY expert and have him find that his BB Expert Carl Childress agrees with US. Even though it has no bearing on the SB game.

Arguing for interference when there is none is insane.

Dakota, Steve, Irish, Tom, NCAA, Manny, myself and many other hundreds of other umpires (who I wish I could all name) have butted heads for years arguing about the most trivial of things..........all the way back to the 90's......and we for the pretty much part kept it civil.

You show up in the last two years and proclaim yourself God's gift to umpires. And if we did not adhere to your view of umpiring....we were idiots. Time and time again we show you where you are wrong....and you act like a Teflon Don.....you allow the shit to roll right off of you.

Excuse me if I am not impressed.

Ooooooh.....you are an NCAA umpire.

Get in line. I can out umpire about 99% of y'all in ASA ball.....and probably most others in NCAA....even with a shitty hip.

PM me for my pedigree.....

Joel

[grounder]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

Rich....please moderate this post......this is not a whose **** is longest just so you know. But, I thought since you have known me since about 1997, you can add some credibility to what I am fixin to say.

EsqUmp is still beating his dead horse.......Jeez...You have been proven wrong so many times.....why do you even still argue it....? You should go to your other NY expert and have him find that his BB Expert Carl Childress agrees with US. Even though it has no bearing on the SB game.

Arguing for interference when there is none is insane.

Dakota, Steve, Irish, Tom, NCAA, Manny, myself and many other hundreds of other umpires (who I wish I could all name) have butted heads for years arguing about the most trivial of things..........all the way back to the 90's......and we for the pretty much part kept it civil.

You show up in the last two years and proclaim yourself God's gift to umpires. And if we did not adhere to your view of umpiring....we were idiots. Time and time again we show you where you are wrong....and you act like a Teflon Don.....you allow the shit to roll right off of you.

Excuse me if I am not impressed.

Ooooooh.....you are an NCAA umpire.

Get in line. I can out umpire about 99% of y'all in ASA ball.....and probably most others in NCAA....even with a shitty hip.

PM me for my pedigree.....

Joel

geez,,talk about a whose **** is bigger...lol..calm down and listen to other opinions once in a while. its healthy for officiating to hear some wisdom that may be outside the box although relavant. you dont have to agree with it but i would hope it would it would give you food for thought. and if no one else cares, im impressed with you being so accomplished, someday i hope to be a 1 percenter, my hip is ok but my shoulder bothers me once in a while..does that count?....lol...by the way, which post by esq ump did you interpret as uncivil?. i find his responses to be quite literate and gramatically civilized..take it easy and keep an open mind

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by grounder

geez,,talk about a whose **** is bigger...lol..calm down and listen to other opinions once in a while. its healthy for officiating to hear some wisdom that may be outside the box although relavant. you dont have to agree with it but i would hope it would it would give you food for thought. and if no one else cares, im impressed with you being so accomplished, someday i hope to be a 1 percenter, my hip is ok but my shoulder bothers me once in a while..does that count?....lol...by the way, which post by esq ump did you interpret as uncivil?. i find his responses to be quite literate and gramatically civilized..take it easy and keep an open mind

grounder.......

I was speaking to a specific individual.....not you.

Read his posts and decide who you think is the instigator.

We had a nice argumentative group here before a certain person got here......it then got personal.

I have been arguing with some of these guys for more than 15 years......one guy comes in and it all blows up......who do you blame.

Hope all is well with you.

Joel

[grounder]

thanks joel..i hope things are well with you also...i understand your position and frustration at times with the esq guy. i think his approach is a bit brusque at times but dont you find his slant and take on what has been standard mechanics and rule interpretations , at least. a little interesting? i dont agree with him a good portion of the time but there are times when his ideas just seem to make sense. being on the outside looking in at most discussions on here i think posters like him make for a more thought provoking discussion...just my opinion of course

[Dakota]

Joel, he (and a couple of others) have not been participants on this board for some time.

At least as far as I am concerned.

The "ignore" list is a wonderful thing!

Until someone quotes him, that is... STOP THAT!

[grounder]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Joel, he (and a couple of others) have not been participants on this board for some time.

At least as far as I am concerned.

The "ignore" list is a wonderful thing!

Until someone quotes him, that is... STOP THAT!

now thats one of the problems with this site..automatically an outsider is consider an invader..so what does Dakota want to do?..circle the wagons and cozy up to"JOEL'..come on JOEL. ignore this guy!! JOEL, he's not one of us!......cant anyone just keep an open mind without rallying the troops and circling the wagon?

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Joel, he (and a couple of others) have not been participants on this board for some time.

At least as far as I am concerned.

The "ignore" list is a wonderful thing!

Until someone quotes him, that is... STOP THAT!

That is about as absurd, juvenile and repressive as it gets.

Do away with someone who you don't like. This is 2013 America, not 1940 Hitler's Germany.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

This is 2013 America, not 1940 Hitler's Germany.

Which means we get to choose whose words we read or listen to.

[xtremeump]

With all of the bad hips and know it all attitudes can anyone tell me what we are talking about ? This is a great forum for us, the old gaurd will always be here and that is a great thing. Everyday the game changes we as Umpires need to keep up with it. Pause, Read, then type.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

That is about as absurd, juvenile and repressive as it gets.

Do away with someone who you don't like. This is 2013 America, not 1940 Hitler's Germany.

I can promise you that Tom does not believe in Hitler's Germany.....He is one of the many people that I would love to have my back in a SB game........you have officially jumped the shark.

I would think by what you have written.....you would stab me in the back....even though....you knew you were wrong.

Bye.........