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ncaa rule
Does some one want to state the actual rule pertaining to banging balls on the dugout?
If I get home before you do, ill find it and post it. I. Don't believe it is as absolutevas some think. |
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13.4.2 No player or coach shall use equipment in any way other than what is intended by the manufacturer (for example, banging bats and balls in a dugout). EFFECT—When brought to the attention of the umpire by the opposing coach, the umpire shall issue a warning to the offending head coach. Any subsequent violation shall result in the abused equipment being removed from the game (not returned to the dugout). I'm not sure how someone could call himself a college umpire and not know a rule as simple as this. ![]()
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Pay attention to this part. If no one complains you don't do anything.
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Well, that's not true. An umpire can direct that they stop. The difference is that you issue an official warning if it is brought to your attention by the opposing team. Which brings up another point: most umpires aren't properly documenting the warning and putting it into post-game reports where required.
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IOW - you only react if it's brought to your attention. If it didn't have that statement then you could react on your own. But it does have that statement.
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I'm with Ives, on this.
I don't care if they are banging balls on buckets. In fact, I groove on it. I have never had a coach complain As far as the rule itself, I don't think it allows us to arbitrarily direct s team to stop. |
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I'm with Ives, on this.
I don't care if they are banging balls on buckets. In fact, I groove on it. I have never had a coach complain As far as the rule itself, I don't think it allows us to arbitrarily direct s team to stop. Why would an umpire want to address it on his own? Address what? |
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And for what, to show that you are a NCAA-clone?
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I'll use this "comprehension" for other instances as well. Next time I notice a batting out of order, unreported substitution, or even a runner missing a bag, I'll simply rule on it without being prompted by the opposing team. EsqUmp - Does the term "protestable situation" mean anything to you? |
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Did you even read the RED section I bolded? Did you see an opposing coach bring it up? Of course not - it's accepted behavior. The umpires are NOT to initiate this conversation on their own... and no coach is ever going to bring this up. You related to Big John on the football board? He does the same thing - the reading part of a rule thing and going crazy inappropriately...
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