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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:50am
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. Should there be a rundown, it also results in one umpire being inside the diamond (plate umpire) and one remaining outside the diamond, which is preferable for a rundown.
Why is the PU inside the diamond?


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. This is if there is no initial play on the BR at 2nd base.
Please don't use the term "initial play" in this context, just for batted ball.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:07pm
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Why is the PU inside the diamond?
For a rundown between second and third, where else would the PU be?

At least I'm assuming EsqUmp meant the rundown would be between those two bases. If the rundown happens between third and home, that's a different story.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:12pm
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For a rundown between second and third, where else would the PU be?

At least I'm assuming EsqUmp meant the rundown would be between those two bases. If the rundown happens between third and home, that's a different story.
Correct. On a rundown between 2nd and 3rd base, NCAA would have the base umpire outside the diamond and the plate umpire inside the diamond.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:15pm
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Why is the PU inside the diamond?



Please don't use the term "initial play" in this context, just for batted ball.
For that rotation (No runners on/U1 chases/ball not caught, on a double or triple) PU's mechanic and responsibility is:

>"Move all the way to a primary position for a possible force play at first base."
>"Watch the batter-runner approach, touch, or round at first base."

for a triple add......

>"As the batter-runner advances to third base, mirror the advancement by moving all the way to the point of plate holding area."

>"Watch any play at third base and be prepared to give help if requested.".......(my words) or needed, such as a possible rundown.

Being as how U3 could have a rundown occur at any time, that help might be needed at any point of the PU's movement back to the point of plate holding area. His movement to third base to cover that end of the rundown would have him inside the diamond.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:52pm
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For that rotation (No runners on/U1 chases/ball not caught, on a double or triple) PU's mechanic and responsibility is:

>"Move all the way to a primary position for a possible force play at first base."
>"Watch the batter-runner approach, touch, or round at first base."
Yeah, forgot we were on NCAA.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:16pm
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Why is the PU inside the diamond?
To help the BU bracket the run-down.
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Old Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:15pm
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To help the BU bracket the run-down.
I was thinking of the usual move with runners on, up the 3rd base line in foul ground.
Then, crossing inside near 3rd if needed.
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