Notre Dame, UA interference call

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by ronald

+1.

A process to come up with the correct call is not occurring imo and this is discouraging and upsetting.

We now have a great source to get live material that we can get into our training. The videos are priceless and it is what other sports do to improve their officials.

+1

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by PSUchem

It seems there are always 2 camps of officials with differing calls for the runner who gets beaned by the throw while traveling from 1B to 2B. Those who state that the runner must not interfere with the play no matter what, and those who state that as long as the runner is doing what they are "supposed to" and do not perform an "act" to cause interference, there is no interference.

Camp #1 would call the a play like this interference; camp #2 would not.

Where did you find that that #1 camp, Hess Field?

Who wants to call her out? Pretty sure the consensus was that the ruling was wrong.

HOWEVER, regardless of which camp you live in, IMHO there was no way that on this play either camp should have an interference call. There is no way that the throw would have beaten the BR to 1B. The BR was on or 1/2 step away from 1B when the throw was released. The runner could not have possibly interfered with the play, which we define as an opportunity to record an out.

Now, did the umpire have the wherewithal to think to him/herself "Hmmm, would the BR have been safe anyway?"... probably not.

Hell, all three of the umpires didn't have the wherewithal to come up with that.

[PSUchem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Who wants to call her out? Pretty sure the consensus was that the ruling was wrong.

Yes, for this play most everyone here agrees the call was wrong. I was referring to the general situation of a double play situation, where the runner is struck with a throw while advancing to 2B. Usually this runner is far closer to 2B, and in those situations the interference/no interference rulings seem to be 50/50 (camp #1 v. camp #2) based on the reasoning I stated. Of course, we all know to which camp you belong, Irish.

And with those dumb rounded backstops they just put in at Hess, we might as well put a tarp over them, make camp, and start a campfire.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Hell, all three of the umpires didn't have the wherewithal to come up with that.

Devil's advocate, this part only. Let's forget or ignore for the moment that we all disagree with the result.

When the umpire crew gets together and discusses a judgment call, who here thinks the majority rules? Even if/when the majority is correct??

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the calling umpire's call unless he/she accepts the "additional missing piece"??

For all we know, two people were saying "Really?", and totally disagreeing for all the reasons we have been stating, yet failed to provide enough information to convince the calling umpire he erred. Absent that, what other outcome should we expect?

Or am I missing something?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Where did you find that that #1 camp, Hess Field?

I think there are a lot of great lessons learned at Hess field.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by PSUchem

and those who state that as long as the runner is doing what they are "supposed to"

Uh oh. Now you've done it. Mbcrowder will be a long soon and chastise you for using the phrase "she's doing what she was supposed to do!". Where's mbcrowder when you need him?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rwest

Uh oh. Now you've done it. Mbcrowder will be a long soon and chastise you for using the phrase "she's doing what she was supposed to do!". Where's mbcrowder when you need him?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by PSUchem

It seems there are always 2 camps of officials with differing calls for the runner who gets beaned by the throw while traveling from 1B to 2B.

I agree with much of the rest of your post. However, I don't think you'll find many umpires who would view this play in replay and call it interference. Put that runner 20 feet closer to 2nd and move the batter back 20 feet, and you'll have your Camps 1 and 2.

[ronald]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Recording 201252274241 - YouTube

Perhaps watching the video will explain it. She did in fact check up, and when she realized the ball was going to hit her she did try to get out of the way. F6 simply drilled her, she had no chance.

way so cool...............thanks.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by ronald

...Above, it says umpires ruled interference. I find it hard to believe that 3 of the yahoos got together and came up with the incorrect ruling. I could be wrong. But god helps us if that is true...

The nail in the coffin for this being a bad call is the fact that there was no play to interfere with. The BR had already achieved 1B before the time of the throw.