The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 09:04pm
Tex Tex is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texarkana, Texas
Posts: 156
Runner leaves early

Called dead ball, because the runner at 1st base left early before the pitcher released the ball . The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her.

Let the batter take 1st base. Neither coach said anything.

Was letting the batter take 1st base the correct call or since dead ball was called have the injured batter bat again?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 09:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 219
No Pitch except NCAA
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 09:38pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,340
As already stated, in any association except NCAA, a runner leaving early is a no pitch situation. The ball was dead before the ball left the pitchers hand, the batter remains at bat with a bruise and the same count as before the pitch.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 11:04pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex View Post
...The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her...
That wasn't a pitch. The runner leaving early is a dead ball, no pitch. (ex: NCAA).
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 07:34am
Tex Tex is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texarkana, Texas
Posts: 156
Thanks, I thought that was the case. I let this go because the score was 22-0 in the 3rd inning. The batter was from the losing team. This was their only base runners until the game ended. Still no excuse, but that is what I did.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 08:28am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex View Post
Called dead ball, because the runner at 1st base left early before the pitcher released the ball . The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her.

Let the batter take 1st base. Neither coach said anything.

Was letting the batter take 1st base the correct call or since dead ball was called have the injured batter bat again?
Dead balls are dead (except in college)
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 09:02am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Central, FL
Posts: 1,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Dead balls are dead (except in college)
Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 09:28am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst View Post
Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

Except it baseball, where they are just sent to their time out corner instead.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 09:38am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst View Post
Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 09:40am
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 391
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '
Have fun storming the castle!!!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 10:05am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 2,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Dead balls are dead (except in college)
Some balls are not totally dead, just delayed dead.....

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....
__________________
It's what you learn after you think you know it all that's important!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 10:21am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy View Post

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....
nice analogy
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 10:27am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy View Post
Some balls are not totally dead, just delayed dead.....

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....
so ... mostly dead then.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 01:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 283
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
so ... mostly dead then.
Schrödinger's ball?
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 01:39pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Central, FL
Posts: 1,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '
I'll get back to you on that.
Have your agent call my agent and we'll FAX lunch.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Base Runner Leaves Early peewee Baseball 9 Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:47pm
Illegal Pitch / Runner leaves early HugoTafurst Softball 21 Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:20pm
Runner leaves early timharris Baseball 4 Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:39am
Runner is out when he leaves the field of play -- or not? Alaska Ump Softball 6 Sat Aug 26, 2006 01:00pm
watching the runner to see if she leaves early Illinois blue Softball 21 Thu Mar 02, 2006 02:56pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:44am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1