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Tex Wed Apr 04, 2012 09:04pm

Runner leaves early
 
Called dead ball, because the runner at 1st base left early before the pitcher released the ball . The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her.

Let the batter take 1st base. Neither coach said anything.

Was letting the batter take 1st base the correct call or since dead ball was called have the injured batter bat again?

roadking Wed Apr 04, 2012 09:21pm

No Pitch except NCAA

RKBUmp Wed Apr 04, 2012 09:38pm

As already stated, in any association except NCAA, a runner leaving early is a no pitch situation. The ball was dead before the ball left the pitchers hand, the batter remains at bat with a bruise and the same count as before the pitch.

Dakota Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 835803)
...The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her...

That wasn't a pitch. The runner leaving early is a dead ball, no pitch. (ex: NCAA).

Tex Thu Apr 05, 2012 07:34am

Thanks, I thought that was the case. I let this go because the score was 22-0 in the 3rd inning. The batter was from the losing team. This was their only base runners until the game ended. Still no excuse, but that is what I did.

MD Longhorn Thu Apr 05, 2012 08:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 835803)
Called dead ball, because the runner at 1st base left early before the pitcher released the ball . The pitch also hit the batter and slightly injured her.

Let the batter take 1st base. Neither coach said anything.

Was letting the batter take 1st base the correct call or since dead ball was called have the injured batter bat again?

Dead balls are dead (except in college)

HugoTafurst Thu Apr 05, 2012 09:02am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 835856)
Dead balls are dead (except in college)

Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

:D

Dakota Thu Apr 05, 2012 09:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 835865)
Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

:D

Except it baseball, where they are just sent to their time out corner instead. :D

MD Longhorn Thu Apr 05, 2012 09:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 835865)
Dead balls are also dead in NCAA.

:D

Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '

RadioBlue Thu Apr 05, 2012 09:40am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 835873)
Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '

Have fun storming the castle!!!

Andy Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 835856)
Dead balls are dead (except in college)

Some balls are not totally dead, just delayed dead.....

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....

CecilOne Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:21am

:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 835878)

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....

nice analogy :cool:

MD Longhorn Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 835878)
Some balls are not totally dead, just delayed dead.....

Which means, the shot's been fired, we just don't know if the wound is fatal yet....

so ... mostly dead then. :)

celebur Thu Apr 05, 2012 01:28pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 835881)
so ... mostly dead then. :)

Schrödinger's ball?

HugoTafurst Thu Apr 05, 2012 01:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 835873)
Nope, just mostly dead, and we all know 'there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do - go through its clothes and look for loose change. '

I'll get back to you on that.
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