...and the benches clear

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I agree with you fully that the game usually needs to be stopped (at least for the night) once benches clear, but just curious to know what call it is you're making here. Forfeit on both sides? Ejecting both teams? Or are you suspending the game to let cooler heads prevail?

I'm ejecting each player who leaves the dugout or defensive position (except known coaches) for unsportsmanlike conduct. If the benches cleared, I doubt there is going to be anyone left on either team.

If I don't have two teams, it is going to be awfully hard to have a game. If there are not enough players, the game is forfeited. Really don't care what the league administration does with it.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I'm ejecting each player who leaves the dugout or defensive position (except known coaches)....

In that case, you would have zero ejections. In beer league softball, EVERYONE is a coach.

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

In that case, you would have zero ejections. In beer league softball, EVERYONE is a coach.

...AND an umpire.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I'm ejecting each player who leaves the dugout or defensive position (except known coaches) for unsportsmanlike conduct. If the benches cleared, I doubt there is going to be anyone left on either team.

If I don't have two teams, it is going to be awfully hard to have a game. If there are not enough players, the game is forfeited. Really don't care what the league administration does with it.

I see...

I don't know if I personally would go quite that far. A lot of guys are running out there just to get their guy out of there, not to cause further problems. I'm not about to penalize guys for breaking it up when they themselves haven't done anything aggressive. That's just my personal opinion, everyone handles things differently.

Most rec league teams don't really have official coaches who fully understand their responsibilities to the game and to their players. More often than not, it's just a bunch of guys who just want to play, and they nominate one poor sap to be their "coach." That lack of leadership is how we end up with a dogpile of players when a fight breaks out.

[umpirebob71]

This is precisely why, after 15 years, I haven't done a single men's SP game this year. They've become nothing more than spoiled children masquerading as adults. Between the loaded bats, and the constant whining, I've had enough. I have only done fast pitch this year, and the real chidren have been wonderful all year. The adult SP is just not worth the aggravation...especially at $15.00 a game.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by umpirebob71

This is precisely why, after 15 years, I haven't done a single men's SP game this year. They've become nothing more than spoiled children masquerading as adults. Between the loaded bats, and the constant whining, I've had enough. I have only done fast pitch this year, and the real chidren have been wonderful all year. The adult SP is just not worth the aggravation...especially at $15.00 a game.

We get $25 and $35.

Rita

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Rita C

We get $25 and $35.

Rita

Single umpire or two-umpire system?

[umpirebob71]

Around here, it's $15 for 2 man, $18 for 1 man. It's just not enough for what you have to go thru to get it.

[shagpal]

$35 & $45.
I got a good gig going.
when they whine, I tell them it's adult t-ball and that works to STFU.

Originally Posted by umpirebob71

Around here, it's $15 for 2 man, $18 for 1 man. It's just not enough for what you have to go thru to get it.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Single umpire or two-umpire system?

One umpire.

Rita

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I see...

I don't know if I personally would go quite that far. A lot of guys are running out there just to get their guy out of there, not to cause further problems. I'm not about to penalize guys for breaking it up when they themselves haven't done anything aggressive. That's just my personal opinion, everyone handles things differently.

It is the COACH'S job to control the players. These are AAs and it doesn't take a village to break up a fight. Gang warfare leads nowhere positive.

Most rec league teams don't really have official coaches who fully understand their responsibilities to the game and to their players. More often than not, it's just a bunch of guys who just want to play, and they nominate one poor sap to be their "coach." That lack of leadership is how we end up with a dogpile of players when a fight breaks out.

Not my problem. I'm there to officiate A SOFTBALL GAME, nothing more. And there is no place for this type of bull in any game, let alone what is supposed to be a recreational activity.

[ronald]

In one neck of the woods, it is $35.50, another $38.50 - 1man, no new inning after 55 minutesIn another set of woods it is $28.