Another OBS question

[Dave9819]

Batter hits ball to outfield and the ball rolls all the way to the fence. Batter hits first and while half way to second base, gets tripped up by the 2nd baseman. At this point I singnal Delayed Dead Ball due to the OBS. Runner makes it 2nd base with no problem and stops there. Now, if I feel that the runner would have easily made 3rd base, but stopped at 2nd base due to the OBS, the rule dictates I award the runner 3rd base, even if there was never a play made on the runner. Correct?

This is ASA rules.

Thanks!

[LIUmp]

I wouldn't. She stopped at second. I can't judge her intent to go to third had there been no obs. Second is where she stopped, second is where she stays.

[SC Ump]

My understanding is that the runner is award the base the umpire believes she would have achieved if there had been no obstructions. Do you think she would have stopped at second if there had been no obstruction?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by LIBlueASA

I wouldn't. She stopped at second. I can't judge her intent to go to third had there been no obs. Second is where she stopped, second is where she stays.

Her intent to stop or advance is irrelevant. If the umpire judges this to be a triple without the OBS, the award should be 3B, whether the runner attempts 3rd, stops at 2nd, or retreats to 1st. And, why she did any of those is irrelevant to the award.

[LIUmp]

I read the post wrong....I didn't read those words "all the way to the fence". I thought it was a simple base hit.

If this was the case, what was your question? It's in your judgment. Award bases you think would have been reached had there been no obstruction.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by LIBlueASA

I read the post wrong....I didn't read those words "all the way to the fence". I thought it was a simple base hit.

If this was the case, what was your question? It's in your judgment. Award bases you think would have been reached had there been no obstruction.

And I believe that would be a fact in ANY case of OBS.

[Inthegame]

Ok I'm not a NCAA guy so lets use NCAA rule set

Same situation BUT runner RETURNS to first base after collision. Do you give her 2nd or since she returned to 1st is she only protected to the base she was headed to?

[Dave9819]

I guess I should have been more clear - she did stop @ second because of the obstruction slowing here down. Had there been no obstruction, she would have went to 3rd.

How do I know that? Because of my ability to read minds

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dave9819

I guess I should have been more clear - she did stop @ second because of the obstruction slowing here down. Had there been no obstruction, she would have went to 3rd.

How do I know that? Because of my ability to read minds

You keep answering your own question. You award the OBS runner and any other runners affected by the OBS, the base you believe they would have made had the OBS not occurred. If you believe she would have reached 3B safely, that should be your award. The fact that she stopped at 2B is irrelevant.